[squeak-dev] Survey: what do you do with Squeak, what do you *want* to do?

Germán Arduino garduino at gmail.com
Wed Mar 7 13:17:31 UTC 2018

Hi Benoit:

I full agree with most of your opinions about the things to improve in

About the "decent" UI builder, once more time, I will mention

Never understood why was not adopted. Is better than nothing what is that
we have now.

My 0,02.

Saludos / Regards,
Germán Arduino

2018-03-07 9:48 GMT-03:00 Benoit St-Jean via Squeak-dev <
squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>:

> Q-What do you use Squeak for?
> Genetic algorithms, scripting (a LOT), experimenting, Euler Project code,
> a chess engine, random data generator, cleaning up/transforming crappy data
> from databases and/or other sources, keeping up with new ideas in Smalltalk.
> Q-If you don't use Squeak, why not?
> Lack of a decent GUI builder. And unstability of the base code and/or
> difficulty to find code/frameworks/applications that load in-one-shot
> without me having to debug in the first place!
> Q-If you used Squeak in the past and don't now, what pulled you away?
> Lack of a decent GUI builder.  Lack of a decent Windows support.
> Q-What does Squeak lack that you think might make you use it for 'regular'
> development?
> A decent GUI builder.  And a central code repository that wouldn't make
> loading code a crazy adventure every time.
> If I want Python code, all I have to do is to visit PyPI.  If I want Ruby
> code, all I have to do is to visit RubyGems. If I want R code, all I have
> to do is to visit CRAN R. If I want VisualWorks code, all I have to do is
> to visit Cincom Public Repository...
> Now, if I want Squeak code, I have to visit SqueakSource, SmalltalkHub,
> GitHub, SqueakSource3, SqueakMap and use a GitHub tool, or file in some
> code, or use the package manager, or use Monticello, or use the Package
> Universe browser, or Gofer, or the SqueakMap Catalog Browser, or...  Well,
> you get the picture.  Besides, once I've found what I was looking for,
> often times the code doesn't load because it was ported to Pharo... or it's
> never been updated to be compatible with the current Squeak version.
> Another tool Squeak needs is an image packager (à la VW or VAST or
> Dolphin) that works!  NOT scripts!
> Q-What things are too hard or annoying to do?
> Building GUIs, again. Package an image to deploy.  Keeping up with the
> base code.  Who need traits, really?  Who uses traits, really? It would
> have been more beneficial to invest that time/effort into cleaning up
> morphic, modularizing the code, create a GUI builder and an Image Stripper !
> Q-What would you like to be able to use Squeak for?
> Everything.  I've always been a Smalltalker!
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