I think the AIO causes more problems than it’s worth. Does it work in Windows better than it does in Mac OS and Linux? I hope so, because it only works for rank beginners on the latter platforms. 

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> On May 30, 2018, at 07:59, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> HI
> 
>>> On 30.05.2018, at 15:30, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chris Muller
>>> Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:14 AM
>> 
>>> AIO provides a compact example file of everything needed to deploy an application on each of the top platforms.  For no more than its instructional value, it is something worth keeping, IMO.
>> 
>> 
>> The AIO _is_ the application. Good to run off a pen drive as well in a
>> platform independent way.
>> 
>> It does not need to be built regularily.
>> Just for the release is fine.
> 
> 
> But the AIO is impractical.
> Eg, for OSX we _must_ force users now to _move_ the .app bundle before starting it the first time, else things just do not work. The only viable Way I see for that is building read-only disk images, so that people must move the app.
> 
> However, nobody else can use DMGs, so we have two things already:
> - ZIP
> - DMG
> 
> And now that snaps (https://snapcraft.io/) enter the stage for linux, we have at least to _consider_ that, too.
> 
> And when signing comes into play, this is getting too complex for me.
> 
> I completely the understand the desirability of a portable app, but given we;re not a near-stateless browser and given our "workforce", I don't see this happen reliably in the forthcoming time.
> 
> Best regards
>    -Tobias
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>>> On 5/30/18, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 07:22:28AM +0200, Tobias Pape wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 30.05.2018, at 01:40, Edgar De Cleene <edgardec2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 May 2018, at 15:42, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Making it easier to find and download new VM builds should be a
>>>>>> priority.
>>>>>> It's quite hard to find a recent VM following links from squeak.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>> This scared beginners
>>>>> All in one should have the most stable and recent
>>>> 
>>>> Let's face it: the All-in-ones are dead.
>>>> Apple makes it harder than ever and for linux we should have start
>>>> building platform packages long ago.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> This topic deserves a new subject line, and it would be great to get some
>>> more input regarding who prefers using the All-In-One distribution for
>>> regular use, versus other approaches for organizing their image and VM.
>>> 
>>> My personal view is that the All-In-One is a valuable enhancement to
>>> the basic image and VM downloads. I do not think that it is practical
>>> to maintain it as the primary release artifact, but I do think that we
>>> should provide it, as best we can, in addition to the primary image and
>>> VM release downloads.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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