> On 10.12.2019, at 08:31, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 10.12.2019, at 03:06, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:
>> 
>> This gets more and more 'fun'.
>> 
>> The SqueakMap load file - which works nicely to load a basic Seaside - says 
>> ================
>> Installer ensureRecentMetacello.
>> 
>> (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new
>> baseline:'Seaside3';
>> repository: 'github://SeasideSt/Seaside:master/repository';
>> load.
>> 
>> (Installer ss3 project: 'WebClient')
>>       install: 'WebClient-Seaside-Adaptor'.
>> 
>> "Optionally use the control panel to add adaptor, start and to set encoding"
>> "WAControlPanel open."
>> 
>> "do the above but without using the GUI"
>> ((Smalltalk at: #WAWebServerAdaptor) port: 8080)
>>       codec: ((Smalltalk at: #GRCodec) forEncoding: 'utf-8');
>>       start.
>> ================
>> Now, the bare load from github loads stuff ok. It doesn't include the REST stuff that started this latest adventure but it is a working Seaside that you can connect to and get the relevant pages.
>> 
> 
> 
> Yes, ok. Apparently it's safe to use the baseline with Squeak now :D I'm glad!
> 
> 
>> So I ran through the process in a debugger to see what is going on, which is a rather convoluted process that at one point leads to the #load which goes to #load: and the argument is  expected to be a list of package names. At least, so far as I can tell. The documentation I've found so far for metacello isn't exactly helpful. The actual HelpPage installed is dreadful.
>> 
>> It looked like maybe I should mimic the idea Tobias suggested, using #load: #('REST') in the hope it would add that to the packages to load. It seemed to run ok and indeed loaded the REST packages. What it *didn't* do is load much of the rest (hur-hur) of the system, so I had no WAControlPanel, for example.
> 
> That's true. the panel is not in the 'default' group, so when you do a deployment where you control stuff automated, you don't have to load GUI stuff.
> 
> 
>> I have to imagine that what happened is that only the things the REST explicitly relies upon got loaded. That leaves us needing all those other parts. 
>> I tried another run with #load:('OneClick' 'REST') - again, mimicking Tobias' suggestion - but that crashed out with the curious complaint that it couldn't find a class named 'Zinc'.
> 
> Yep; that's a problem.
> 
> Apparently, the baseline still does not have stuff fixed that I once fixed in the Configuration :(
> Baaad.

note how this contradicts my earlier statement…
Which planet has this 36h days?

> 
> 
>> Well, I mean 'duh' this is Squeak.
>> So I tried a plain #load again, in the hope it might add in the default stuff; and it seems to have done that. 
>> 
>> 
>> The question I have how to cleanly load the basic system and the REST (and maybe other stuff later, who knows) reliably. Do we go with sometihng like
>> (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new
>> baseline:'Seaside3';
>> repository: 'github://SeasideSt/Seaside:master/repository';
>> load;
>> load: #('REST').
>> ... for example? That seems rather cumbersome to say the least. I tried that out for completeness' sake and it does appear to have worked, so there's that.
> 
> If I had time at hand, I'd fix it.
> I can't help until new year. Please throw something in my general direction when I don't act then :D
> 
> Best regards
> 	-Tobias
> 
> 
> PS: I might have been the sole seaside-on-squeak maintainer for quite some years but time was too tight in the last two years to keep that up. We need one person to do that kind of stuff, really.