I can't find it in older images either. But it does seem like a good idea,
and I like the screen shot that Christoph showed.

Dave

On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 06:58:43PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote:
> Hm,
> I looked a little into this. I can't find this in older images. Maybe I
> miss remember how it used to work...
> 
> Best,
> Karl
> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:31 PM karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Class variables used to be visible in the inspector as you show in the
> > screenshot.
> > They are capitalized so you see they are special.
> > I can't remember exactly when it got removed, it was a few years ago.
> > I also can't remember the reason they got removed.
> > But I miss having them easy accessible, because hidden state is really
> > hard to debug.
> > And hiding the class variables just make it even harder.
> >
> > Best,
> > Karl
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:18 PM Thiede, Christoph <
> > Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
> >
> >> > Please consider bringing back functionality for Inspectors and
> >> Explorers to show class side variables then :-)
> >>
> >> Oh, this was possible in the past? I never saw that :D What I already
> >> implemented is a ClassInspector for this purpose. Not sure if we want all
> >> class variables also when inspecting instance, I can imagine this could be
> >> confusing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Christoph
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *Von:* Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im
> >> Auftrag von karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com>
> >> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2020 17:07:38
> >> *An:* The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> >> *Cc:* ralphpboland at gmail.com
> >> *Betreff:* Re: [squeak-dev] variable assignments button/hotkeys (again)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 4:42 PM Thiede, Christoph <
> >> Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Ralph,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> nice idea. I'm currently refactoring all the Inspectors
> >>>
> >> Please consider bringing back functionality for Inspectors and Explorers
> >> to show class side variables then :-)
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Karl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> (I hope we can review them soon, and I wish to commit them into the
> >>> inbox ASAP), and I already implemented the same idea. Coming soon :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Christoph
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> *Von:* Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im
> >>> Auftrag von Ralph Boland <rpboland at gmail.com>
> >>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 5. Februar 2020 22:49:29
> >>> *An:* squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> >>> *Betreff:* [squeak-dev] variable assignments button/hotkeys (again)
> >>>
> >>> Not long ago I posted about the variable assignments button.
> >>> It generated an interesting discussion but I don't think in the end it
> >>> will
> >>> result in any change to the operation of Squeak.
> >>>
> >>> Let me make a slight variation on this discussion.
> >>>
> >>> In the Inspector/Debugger the instance variables of  the class being
> >>> inspected are displayed in a window and any one of these variables can
> >>> be selected/inspected.
> >>> Then using a menu or hotkey one can invoke:
> >>>          StringHolder>>browseVariableReferences
> >>>               or
> >>>          StringHolder>>browseVariableAssignments
> >>>
> >>> These commands bring up a selection window where one chooses one of the
> >>> instance
> >>> variables of the class of the selected variable.  Then  one of the
> >>> methods above is invoked
> >>> on the instance variable you chose.
> >>>
> >>> This was counterintuitive to me so I added two new menu-items/hotkeys:
> >>>
> >>>         ('selected variable references... (u)'
> >>> browseSelectedVariableReferences)
> >>>                      and
> >>>         ('selected variable assignments... (A)'
> >>> browseSelectedVariableAssignments)
> >>>
> >>> These commands act like the cooresponding previous commands except that,
> >>> instead of bringing up a selection window for the user to select the
> >>> variable to use,
> >>> the selected variable of the class being inspected is used (and the
> >>> class being
> >>> inspected is used instead of the class of the selected variable).
> >>>
> >>> This feature is more intuitive to me and I have found it quite useful.
> >>>
> >>> I have attached the necessary code as .st files in case anybody would
> >>> like to
> >>> try it out.  These are filed out from Linux but I assume they load as
> >>> is to Windows or Mac.
> >>> Feel free to make any changes you feel necessary and if it gets added to
> >>> the
> >>> next version of Squeak, great!
> >>>
> >>> If you try it out let me know what you think.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for reading
> >>>
> >>> Ralph Boland  rpboland at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>



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