Not for neither against that change. I use the Transcript very rarely only - unless you are dealing with processing issues, variable assignments and #inspect/#explore/#halt[Once] have felt more "live" and direct to me. Others shall decide about that proposal. :-)


Just one thought: Currently, our tools display a flag for every method that contains Transcript, halt, flag, needsAttention, or a few others. If we establish #transcriptShow etc., we should make sure to add this selector to this list. Analogously, when you file out a changeset, it needs to detect these selector for the slip detection.


Best,

Christoph

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Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von mail at jaromir.net <mail at jaromir.net>
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Dezember 2021 21:25:40
An: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org; das.linux at gmx.de
Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Syntactic sugar for Transcript show:

Hi Tobias,

I can't believe I copied the wrong example - indeed I meant

Object>>transcriptShowln

        Transcript showln: self

Anyway, I hear your objection and understand it's by no means "important"; it just seemed to me (1) convenient and (2) as a beginner I struggled with the Transcript concept - so it might serve as a little help to future beginners, to hide Transcript at least for a moment before they get used to it :)

Thanks for your time,

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On 2021-12-06T21:19:51+01:00, das.linux at gmx.de wrote:

> Hi Jaromir
>
>
> > On 6. Dec 2021, at 20:16, mail at jaromir.net wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'd like to propose two little unary helper methods to facilitate printing to the Transcript window. It would allow
> >
> > #(1 2 3) transcriptShowln
> >
> > in addition to
> >
> > Transcript cr; show: #(1 2 3)
> >
> > You could sprinkle such calls into existing code without having to change too much punctuation (like statements or parentheses etc.) just like calling #inspect or #explore.
> >
> > Similar implementation is present in Cuis or Pharo and a simple "print" command is usual in most languages (except a few like Java).
> >
> > As for naming: I incline towards using the verb show rather than print because Transcript print: doesn't show the output until you flush it while Transcript show: displays the output immediately. Adding 'transcript' to the name allows for easy spotting of these calls in the code; plain #print or #show could collide with namesake methods.
> >
> > Object>>transcriptShowln
> >
> >      Transcript cr; show: self
> >
> >
> > Object>>transcriptShow
> >
> >      Transcript show: self
> >
> > If there are no objections I'll send a changeset to the Inbox.
>
> I think
>
>        Transcript showln: anObject
>
> is sufficient.
>
> If not, you always have Object>>printOn:
>
> Best regards
>        -Tobias
>
>

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