Hi,
I get this result from testing.

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Best,
Karl


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 10:22 PM Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:17 PM Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Some background that may help in diagnosis...
>>
>> This finds all assignments toi Transcript, either directly "Transcript :=
>> expr" or via Smalltalk at: #Transcript put: expr.
>>
>> Add to ParseNode:
>> anySatisfy: aBlock
>>     self nodesDo: [:n| (aBlock value: n) ifTrue: [^true]].
>>     ^false
>>
>> then
>>
>> | tb sb |
>> sb := Smalltalk bindingOf: #Smalltalk.
>> tb := Smalltalk bindingOf: #Transcript.
>> self sn browseAllSelect:
>>     [:m|
>>     ((m hasLiteral: tb) and: [m methodNode anySatisfy: [:n| n
>> isAssignmentNode and: [n variable key == tb]]])
>>     or: [(m hasLiteral: #Transcript) and: [m methodNode anySatisfy:
>> [:n| n isMessageNode and: [n selector key == #at:put: and: [n receiver
>> ifNil: [false] ifNotNil: [:r| r isVariableNode and: [r key == sb and: [n
>> arguments first isLiteralNode and: [n arguments first key ==
>> #Transcript]]]]]]]]]]
>>
>
> Ugh.  Did not mean to send yet.  Anyway...
>
> That shows that a project's transcript is installed in Project newState:,
> which assigns the project's transcript via TranscriptStream
> class>>#newTranscript:. That implies that all normal transcripts are unique
> to a project and have just one dependent (see TranscriptStream>>#open).
>
> So the first thing to check is are all projects in your image holding onto
> unique transcripts.  e.g. im my image
>
> {Project allSubInstances size. (IdentitySet withAll: (Project
> allSubInstances collect: #transcript)) size} #(5 5)
>
> HTH
>
>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:13 AM karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 2:44 PM Thiede, Christoph <
>>> Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I could not reproduce the issue on Windows with a 22104 image and the 202206021410
>>>> VM. Could you inspect Project current transcript identityHash and the
>>>> transcript window's model identity hash for both projects and compare the
>>>> results?
>>>>
>>> I did this test in a fresh image.
>>>
>>> Transcript works in the Home project.
>>> In the new project theTranscript got the title "Transcript #2" and does
>>> not respond.
>>>
>>> The two Transcripts in Home project and the new project have different
>>> identityHash: 2484433 and 3994991
>>>
>>> I opened another project in the same image and the fault was gone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C:\Users\Karl\Downloads\TranscriptBug\Squeak6.1alpha-22300-64bit-202206021410-Windows-x64\Squeak.exe
>>> Open Smalltalk Cog[Spur] VM [CoInterpreterPrimitives
>>> VMMaker.oscog-dtl.3185]
>>> Win32 built on Jun  2 2022 15:29:44 Compiler: Clang 14.0.3
>>> platform sources revision VM: 202206021410 runneradmin at fv-az455-257:/d/a/opensmalltalk-vm/opensmalltalk-vm
>>> Date: Thu Jun 2 16:10:44 2022 CommitHash: c9fd365 Plugins: 202206021410
>>> runneradmin at fv-az455-257:/d/a/opensmalltalk-vm/opensmalltalk-vm
>>> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-dtl.3185 uuid:
>>> 0e7f07b8-eed6-4362-b223-86c98594ddb9 Jun  2 2022
>>> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-mt.3179 uuid:
>>> c6fbcb07-2a19-ed4f-8b40-9c119a70882a Jun  2 2022
>>>
>>>  Best,
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Christoph
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *Von:* Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im
>>>> Auftrag von karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com>
>>>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 5. Dezember 2022 13:01:15
>>>> *An:* Bruce O'Neel
>>>> *Cc:* The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [squeak-dev] Transcript not working in Morphic projects
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 10:18 AM Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel at pckswarms.ch>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> MacOS x86-64, Squeak 6.0 as shipped with image 22104 - fresh install
>>>>> with nothing else Squeak related on the system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Start a new image
>>>>> Open Transcript
>>>>> Open Workspace
>>>>> In the workspace type:  Transcript show: 'hello 1'.
>>>>> Shows in Transcript
>>>>>
>>>>> Next Create a Morphic project
>>>>> Open it
>>>>> Open Transcript
>>>>> Open Workspace
>>>>> In the workspace type: Transcript show: 'hello 2'.
>>>>> Nothing shows.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I saw the same. Glad you could confirm my sanity :-D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Return to Previous Project
>>>>>
>>>>> Create a MVC project
>>>>> Open it
>>>>> Open Transcript
>>>>> Open Workspace
>>>>> In the workspace type: Transcript show: 'hello 3'
>>>>> Shows in Transcript.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if I do the same thing in Squeak 6.1 22297, downloading just the
>>>>> images/changes/sources, again on MacOS X x86-64 then it works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> And now, very interestingly, if I return to the as downloaded MacOS X
>>>>> Squeak 6.0 22104 the problem has gone away.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I am running the same VM in both cases, but clearly 2 different
>>>>> images.  One in the Downloaded app directory and then one separately
>>>>> downloaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now...  If I remove all trace of Squeak from the system, re-install
>>>>> Squeak 6.0 22104 from the dmg, the problem comes back with Squeak 6.0
>>>>> update 22104,
>>>>>
>>>>> But downloading and running just the Squeak 6.1 images/changes .zip,
>>>>> unzipping it, running the above commands make the same set of commands run
>>>>> correctly in Squeak 6.0 22104.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see anything changing in the Squeak app directory.    A find
>>>>> looking for recently modified files under Library/Saved
>>>>> Application/Sate/org.squeak.squeak6.0-64bit.savedState and I can't see how
>>>>> this is changing things.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Windows this works fine with Squeak 6.0 22104.  Ditto x86-64 Linux
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl - Are you running on MacOS?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, all testing I did was on Windows 10 and 11.
>>>> It's a very peculiar issue.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-12-05T07:21:36.000+01:00, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:33 AM tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 2022-12-04, at 1:51 PM, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hm,
>>>>> > I got the same issue with a fresh downloaded Trunk image.
>>>>> > No text is displayed in the Transcript
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To reproduce:
>>>>> > -Make a new Morphic Project
>>>>> > -Enter project and open a Workspace and Transcript
>>>>> > -See if the Transcript responds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is very odd; it works perfectly well in my 22114 update image (Pi
>>>>> 64bit as usual). Not sure the new project should default to having
>>>>> flap/tabs though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just in case I tried it in both possible orders
>>>>> - create transcript then workspace
>>>>> - create workspace and then transcript
>>>>> in case it was something to do with binding the morph to the name.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm mystified.
>>>>> I got his error several times.
>>>>> Now I can't reprodroduce it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> _,,,^..^,,,_
>> best, Eliot
>>
>
>
> --
> _,,,^..^,,,_
> best, Eliot
>
>
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