> That's not the process of testing a new release build. ;-)


Then my proposal would be to revise this process. Lazy, explicit initialization sounds easier to me than downloading a new image, at least for this particular aspect of default preference values.

User A "I don't care" has never changed the preference and would automatically receive all preference recommendations.

User B "I do care" has explicitly changed the preference and would not be disturbed by a new preference recommendation that we publish via the update stream.

What's wrong with this? :-)


> I assume that you did add an update-map entry already? Then it's too late. If not, sure, revert it.

No, I did not yet create an entry in the update map.

Best,
Christoph

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Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2022 14:47:45
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Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] The Trunk: Morphic-ct.1843.mcz

Note that we can still override a .mcm when needed.

Le mer. 12 janv. 2022 à 14:44, Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de<mailto:marcel.taeumel at hpi.de>> a écrit :
> The problem that I see with this strategy is that users that do not explicitly try out all new defaults will be surprised by them lately only when they try out a newly released image.

Ehm... yeah. That's not the process of testing a new release build. ;-) You download the new bundle and test that. Your local work image can have all kinds of quirks not present in the release bundle.

> I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Shall I revert this?

I assume that you did add an update-map entry already? Then it's too late. If not, sure, revert it.

Best,
Marcel

Am 12.01.2022 14:41:21 schrieb Thiede, Christoph <christoph.thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de<mailto:christoph.thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>>:

Hi Marcel,


I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Shall I revert this?


The problem that I see with this strategy is that users that do not explicitly try out all new defaults will be surprised by them lately only when they try out a newly released image. If all preference variables were only set to a value different from nil when a user *explicitly decides* to change it, it would be easier for us to change the behavior for the rest of the users only.


Best,

Christoph

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Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org<mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org>> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2022 14:18:12
An: squeak-dev
Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] The Trunk: Morphic-ct.1843.mcz

Hi Christoph --

This is what I meant what we should not do. We should not change the preferences a user currently has in his or her image through the update stream. Just because we agreed on a different default value, we must not change what users decided before that. :-( Please don't do that again in the future. :-) We only synchronize those preferences in the release-building process.

Best,
Marcel

Am 10.01.2022 17:29:45 schrieb commits at source.squeak.org<mailto:commits at source.squeak.org> <commits at source.squeak.org<mailto:commits at source.squeak.org>>:

Christoph Thiede uploaded a new version of Morphic to project The Trunk:
http://source.squeak.org/trunk/Morphic-ct.1843.mcz

==================== Summary ====================

Name: Morphic-ct.1843
Author: ct
Time: 10 January 2022, 5:29:01.402518 pm
UUID: c969959b-377b-aa41-a85a-b4ffc3239a2d
Ancestors: Morphic-ct.1841

Synchronizes default preference value for "Enclose selection with brackets". Complements Morphic-mt.1812.

=============== Diff against Morphic-ct.1841 ===============

Item was changed:
(PackageInfo named: 'Morphic') postscript: '"Fix missing command key shortcuts such as [cmd]+[+/-] for scale changes."
Project allMorphicProjects do: [:p | p world initializeDesktopCommandKeySelectors].

"New ''scale factor'' menu"
+ TheWorldMainDockingBar updateInstances.
+
+ "Enable ''Enclose selection with brackets'' by default (Morphic-mt.1812)"
+ TextEditor encloseSelection: true.'!
- TheWorldMainDockingBar updateInstances.'!



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