[squeak-dev] the state of Apple Silicon
Bob Arning
arning315 at comcast.net
Tue Jan 25 16:59:24 UTC 2022
On 1/25/22 11:32 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:42 AM, Bob Arning <arning315 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/25/22 9:12 AM, Marcel Taeumel wrote:
>>> Hi Bob --
>>>
>>> It should not be that much slower:
>>>
>>> macMini (Oct 2020)
>>> macOS Big Sur 11.6.2
>>> Chip: Apple M1
>>> OSVM: 202112201228 (arm64)
>>> 4,400,000,000 bytecodes/sec; 330,000,000 sends/sec
>>> OSVM: 202112201228 (x64 via Rosetta)
>>> 3,500,000,000 bytecodes/sec; 270,000,000 sends/sec
>>>
>>>
>> Perhaps it was the VM I was using:
>>
>> Virtual Machine
>> ---------------
>> /Users/bob/squeak/AST (modern)/AST 64-bit.app/Contents/MacOS/Squeak
>> Open Smalltalk Cog[Spur] VM [CoInterpreterPrimitives
>> VMMaker.oscog-nice.2715] 64 bit
>> Mac OS X built on Mar 3 2020 08:28:30 GMT Compiler: 4.2.1 Compatible
>> Apple LLVM 8.1.0 (clang-802.0.42)
>> platform sources revision VM: 202003021730
>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git Date: Mon Mar 2
>> 18:30:55 2020 CommitHash: 6a0bc96 Plugins: 202003021730
>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git
>> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-nice.2715 uuid:
>> 78e2f556-9829-42fe-963d-e19dfc43c0e9 Mar 3 2020
>> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2719 uuid:
>> e40f3e94-3a54-411b-9613-5d19114ea131 Mar 3 2020
>>
>> While I got similar numbers to yours for the tinyBenchmarks, I found
>> that my code was slower by a factor of 5 to 10. Does that make sense?
>
> Not really. You’re sure you’re using the M1 executable and not the
> x86_64 one? I realise the version info printed by the vm doesn’t tell
> which one it is. I have to fix this.
>
> BTW if you checkout OpenSmalltalk-vm, follow
> building/macos64ARMv8/HowToBuild, and build in
> building/macos64ARMv8/squeak.cog.spur, you should be able to sign your
> own bundle.
>
> _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
>
I am definitely using the x86_64 executable. I was curious to see if I
just moved things across to the new machine if they would run better,
worse or the same. Didn't know at the time that there was a new vm -
searched recent mailing lists and did not see any indication of one. Now
that I have one for apple silicon, I will see how it goes. BTW, does a
6.0 vm run a 5.3 image OK?
As for following OpenSmalltalk-vm, that's a bit outside my comfort zone,
but thanks for the tip.
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