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<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Following the link to of Alan in another discussion, I found
on the website of Mitchel Resnick <A
href="http://www.media.mit.edu/~mres/">http://www.media.mit.edu/~mres/</A> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>nice
examples of active essays <A
href="http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/circles/">http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/el/projects/circles/</A> this
time in StarLogo (you need a plugin)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001></SPAN><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I also
took a look in his article list and found one that hits my current problem:
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"How
to create a design interface for non-technical (and technical!)
professors that facilitates them during the construction of
educational learning settings" </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Not
only courses, but also for problem based learning, cases, virtual
companies, project group approaches etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For
courses we had a successful prototype, I earlier refereed to:
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://130.89.152.133:8888/EducationalDesign/uploads/2/TeletopLearningRevised.doc">http://130.89.152.133:8888/EducationalDesign/uploads/2/TeletopLearningRevised.doc</A>
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What
these designers (as normal problem solvers?) want to do is all
these things together.. surfing between levels in their design
space..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What I
need most is a tool that helps them to differentiate (VISUAL ! !) between these
levels and the different things you do on these levels with the possibility to
go back and forth during design. Made me cry: "I need a
yo-yo-editor!"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
leveling focus I did find in this article, made me rethink..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.ccl.sesp.northwestern.edu/cm/papers/levels/levels.html">http://www.ccl.sesp.northwestern.edu/cm/papers/levels/levels.html</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
think you refer also to these levels during design, and give them common sense
names. thanks, I will work further on that idea. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>===========================</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We,
people of ten Dutch Universities and Colleges united in "Dutch
Digitale Universiteit" are working on the adaptation of an Educational
Markup Language, designed by the Dutch Open University. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It is offered to
the IMS learning design group to become a subset of the IMS standards (Of course
are their other candidates for this)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Core
of this EML is to deliver an XML based, platform independent description
tool for educational arrangements, ending up in Learning Design
Specifications, not only a tree of related resources but also descriptions
(Not prescriptions!) of conditions (also nested) that can be
followed by the runtime system when you unfold it there.... Maps to
Alan's idea of "extreme late educational binding"?)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>(for
the DTD of EML 1.0 see: htttp://eml.ou.nl)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=255591410-01112001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>One of
the activities is to design authoring tools for people who are not
used to read XML-tree's on a daily base and still being in control of the
levels of design. More Tips? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=255591410-01112001> </SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
Justin Walsh [mailto:jwalsh@bigpond.net.au]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November
01, 2001 11:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Three Threads Of
Squeak<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Missing attachment</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jwalsh@bigpond.net.au href="mailto:jwalsh@bigpond.net.au">Justin
Walsh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 01, 2001 8:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Three Threads Of Squeak</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Building professional software is like building
a, building:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Three stages:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Concept requires
Designer ~ ideas</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Logistic
requires Architect ~ concepts</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Construct
requires Builder ~ objects</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One tool, three threads. Designers don't lay
bricks and Brickies don't design buildings.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are those that just like playing so the
above order doesnt matter unless the play is a professional activity. In that
case more threads may be added to the list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is not productive to confuse these different
threads. It leads to insult and counter insult.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Generally speaking anyone who has ever been a
designer will understand the role of policy, philosopy, religion: in some
countries if the building faces the wrong direction nobody will live or work
in it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anybody who has ever been a brickie will
understand the role of initiate, inventiveness, imagination ie most of the
tools we find at the floor level have been created by workers "laying bricks"
or to stretch a metaphor, "writing code".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sandwiched in between are the Logicians who use
yet another set of tools to ensure that Designs correspond with Objects (of
design).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We don't have to like, understand,
accept, .., each other. Just respect each other.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Each has a different vision for Smalltalk that is
all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Attached is one person view on the
matter</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>