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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For those people who reply to me directly: I don't
really have any other layout to offer (at this place and time) than the
Hierarchy/Network model that was offered earlier</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Concept
Hierarch level 1 or Think</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Logical
Hierarch level 2 or Think/Do</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Physical
Hierarch level 3 or Do</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Play
peer to peer This I consider the realm of the "Autonomous"
Object or Virus.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have cut from another public email, to myself,
a reply which, I think, expects me to decide which thread it belongs
to. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have an opinion but, to avoid controversy, I
reproduce it here again for the readers of this thread to respectfully, analyse,
remembering that the content not the person is relevant.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The attached pdf demonstrates at least one others
point of view. </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Justin,<BR><BR>In this OS as Squeak Schema you describe, how do you answer
this question?<BR><BR>If a hen and a half lays an egg and a half in a day and a
half, how many<BR>waffles does it take to cover a dog house?<BR><BR>Jim</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is it technically feasible for say, a list
like this one, on command, to be sorted on the above 4 (?)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>threads?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Currently on Open Outlook I only have:
From, Subject and Receive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jwalsh@bigpond.net.au href="mailto:jwalsh@bigpond.net.au">Justin
Walsh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:05
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Three Threads Of
Squeak</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Missing attachment</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jwalsh@bigpond.net.au href="mailto:jwalsh@bigpond.net.au">Justin
Walsh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 01, 2001 8:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Three Threads Of Squeak</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Building professional software is like building
a, building:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Three stages:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Concept requires
Designer ~ ideas</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Logistic
requires Architect ~ concepts</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Construct
requires Builder ~ objects</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One tool, three threads. Designers don't lay
bricks and Brickies don't design buildings.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are those that just like playing so the
above order doesnt matter unless the play is a professional activity. In
that case more threads may be added to the list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is not productive to confuse these different
threads. It leads to insult and counter insult.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Generally speaking anyone who has ever been a
designer will understand the role of policy, philosopy, religion: in some
countries if the building faces the wrong direction nobody will live or work
in it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anybody who has ever been a brickie will
understand the role of initiate, inventiveness, imagination ie most of the
tools we find at the floor level have been created by workers "laying
bricks" or to stretch a metaphor, "writing code".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sandwiched in between are the Logicians who use
yet another set of tools to ensure that Designs correspond with Objects (of
design).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We don't have to like, understand,
accept, .., each other. Just respect each other.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Each has a different vision for Smalltalk that
is all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Attached is one person view on the
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