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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hi, Diego!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Your assessment sounds about right and implies (at least to
me) a subsequent question: is Squeak to remain the vanguard in the journey from
3 + 4 to *real* personal computing -- "Media (and much more) Squeak" --
or is it to be sidetracked at some intermediate point like all the other
descendants of ST-72? Simply put, is Squeak being built for tomorrow or
for today?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Gary Fisher</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:23 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> What we want with Squeak?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>Hi,<BR><BR>I think
we're really near to find *the* source of all these discussion we<BR>have
periodically since SqC leaves Disney.<BR><BR>What we want with Squeak? Clearly
there are 2 groups:<BR><BR> - The "Media-Squeakers" (in Andreas's
words)<BR> - The "Traditional-Squeaker" (in my words)<BR><BR>I'll try to
explain creating radicalized descriptions of these groups:<BR><BR>The
Media-Squeakers believes in Squeak as the most promising incarnation of<BR>the
Dynabook concept. These guys want TTF in the Image, Sound, Midi,
PDF<BR>support, SVG readers/writers, Improved Look&Feel, Video support,
etc and<BR>they are able to accept a big core image.<BR><BR>The
Traditional-Squeakers are more interested in "normal" development
with<BR>Squeak and they are interested in SOAP, Relational DB Access, CORBA,
CVS<BR>support, cgi-type web servers, native-widgets, etc. These guys
want a<BR>really small core image with nothing more than stdio
support.<BR><BR>If we don't agree with the goals difficulty we'll agree on
methods.<BR><BR>We have to decide what we want with Squeak and accept that,
probably, the<BR>goals of these groups are not the same. Personally I
think we have not<BR>enough resources to try to get all the goals of both
groups.<BR><BR>In the SqC age the Media-Group was in charge and Squeak has
excellent<BR>multimedia capabilities and absolute no support for
"traditional"<BR>development. In the Guides-Age these goals, imho,
are not so
clear.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Diego<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>