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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Brad,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> I am seeing a lot of synergy
actually. You do the audio tidy up, Blake does tools and doco, Dean does some
very cool low level stuff which I sure forms the basis of a bunch of later work
(i.e. better algorithms for OGG, etc than straight ports of “C”), Yoshiki,
Martin and others do video, I handle file formats (with lots of help :) and the
others test.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The main things I see happening from here
that we need to resolve ASAP are a bunch of questions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What do people see as the interfaces?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What have others seen in a multimedia
framework? Is there a good one we can steal, I mean be influenced by.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What are the lowest common denominators?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What functionality does everyone want?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Just as an example what about these?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>aURI playVideo<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>aURI playAudio<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>aURI play “uses
a specific player based on the file type”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>aURI edit “opens
a specific editor based on the file type”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>aURI editAudio “opens
an audio editor on just the audio stream of the file”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>When we figure out where we want to get
to, we can work out how to get there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>As for the question below, yes I am
interested in re-useability, something that everyone raves about for OO and
Smalltalk but something that Squeak is very bad at doing in practice. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I am not a “programmer”
although I program ;) so I will write code for the framework. I already have a
simple MM framework but I need some help with the design, I am not experienced
enough to know which are the better OO ways of doing things.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Russell<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org
[mailto:squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brad Fuller<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 25 February 2005
12:52 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">The
general-purpose Squeak developers list</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Improving Squeak's
Multimedia - Part 2 Followup</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Brad Fuller wrote:<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>==== Attack Plan <br>
Finally, I propose that we decide on what to tackle and how to do it. <br>
<br>
>From a bird's eye view, we might look at 3 distinct phases (not necessarily
linear in order - can be approached simultaneously): <br>
<br>
* Review/Discuss/Plan/Fix existing classes (which hopefully fix <br>
existing tools/apps) <br>
* Discuss-Design/Plan/Enhance existing classes <br>
* Discuss-Design/Plan/Add new capabilities: new classes, tools and
<br>
end-user applications. <br>
<br>
And, are you interested in helping? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>As mentioned in my msg,
I'm interested in mainly fixing and enhancing the audio base classes, first. <br>
<br>
>From the comments so far, we don't a clear winner -- not any particular
area that everyone feels compelled to work on. Nothing jumps out at me.
Anything jump out at you?<br>
<br>
Here's what I have so far:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color="#3366ff"
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#3366FF;
font-weight:bold'>Blake Watson<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Interests:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>I'd like to see
an equalizer. I think it'd also be cool if Squeak could be used to teach
orchestration/composition. And video editing. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Commitment:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>My contributions
would most likely be: I can test, I can document, and I can build
end-user stuff. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color="#3366ff"
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#3366FF;
font-weight:bold'>Martin Kuball<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Interests:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>IMHO Squeak
already has a lot of things we can use. But they need to be better integrated,
polished up a little bit and bundled with some nice interface classes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Commitment:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>?<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color="#3366ff"
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#3366FF;
font-weight:bold'>Russell Penny<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Interests:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>My main
interest is making sure I can use any format I want in any of the tools that
will be designed.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Commitment:</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>I have been
collecting format specification documents for a while now and am more than
happy to help in that area.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color="#3366ff"
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#3366FF;
font-weight:bold'>Dean Swan<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Interests:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1. Audio</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
A. <st1:place w:st="on">MIDI</st1:place></span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
B. Synthesis</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
1) FM</span></font><font size=2
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
2) Subtractive</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
3) Additive</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
4) Voice/Speech</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
C. Recording/Editing</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
1) Filtering (Simple and Adaptive)</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
2) Sample Rate Conversion</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
3) Effects (i.e. Reverb, Delay,
Phasing, Flanging, Dynamics,</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
Pitch Modification, Time Stretching, etc.)</span></font><font size=2
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2. Video</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
A. Compression</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
1) Vector Quantization</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
B. Streaming</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
C. Editing</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
1) Colorspace Conversion</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
2) Scaling</span></font><font size=2
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
3) Compositing</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Commitment:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The majority of my
experience is with audio DSP and anything related, so that's where I can
probably contribute the most. <br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Vector Quantization is something I have explored quite extensively on my
own</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color="#3366ff"
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#3366FF;
font-weight:bold'>Steve Elkins<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Interests:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>I'm more
interested in (forming a<br>
better understanding of) Squeak's ability to integrate various media. I want to
record stories and have her illustrate them, like narrated slide shows. I
also want to set stories to music.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Commitment:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Testing and
using for now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color="#3366ff"
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#3366FF;
font-weight:bold'>Brian Vukmer<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Commitment:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>I'm interested
in being a tester.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color="#3366ff"
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#3366FF;
font-weight:bold'>Yoshiki Ohshima<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:
bold'>Interests:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Adding MPEG4 to
Squeak<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Commitment:</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>My thought now
is to write an equivalent of mp4player in Squeak, and<br>
call MPEG4IP library as plugin.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <br>
</span></font><b><font size=2 color="#3333ff" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#3333FF;font-weight:bold'>Brad
Fuller</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Interests:</span></b><br>
Audio/Music<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Commitment:</span></b><br>
Help plan/code/test current audio base classes (need defn of what those are,
which I can do).<br>
I will test, too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>No response
(yet!) from:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=-moz-fixed><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:-moz-fixed'>Craig
Latta <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=-moz-fixed><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:-moz-fixed'>Mark
McCahill <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=-moz-fixed><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:-moz-fixed'>Juan
Vuletich <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=-moz-fixed><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:-moz-fixed'>Cornelius
Huber <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
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We have 3 that have volunteered their time to test. Thanks! That is very
important.<br>
<br>
We don't quite have a quorum on what they would test, though ;-) <br>
But, I didn't think we would yet. <br>
<br>
We also don't have a count on who would actually code.<br>
<br>
First things first: from the replies, I see the following MM items of interest
and at least one person is interested in writing/editing/enhancing code (and
I'm sure I missed something, so please fire away and let's add it to the list):<br>
* Fix/enhance existing audio classes - could include the current
soundrecorder/player tools<br>
* Add MPEG 4 player.<br>
* Dean has a lot of interests! It would help if you could prioritize. Will you
help code?<br>
* Russell is looking at this from a MM usability/re-use POV (right?). In
addition to OGG.<br>
* Martin feels that Squeak has a lot going for it already -- just needs
cleaning/polishing and a new suit. Can you be more specific and what you feel
needs cleaning up and what you would help with?<br>
<br>
I certainly believe that people well feel compelled to help if they see a clear
personal benefit. Finding the flag we can rally around is the difficult part --
especially since we are doing this for free and we are not working in the same
timezones (however, round-the-clock programming can be productive and fun if
organized right.)<br>
<br>
Hey, we're getting closer. Looks darn good to me!<br>
<br>
When I have more comments, I'll put out Part 3 (i know... i know... you just
can't wait...)<br>
<br>
brad<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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