<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I know this thread is a bit stale now, but didn't see what the</DIV><DIV>likely conclusion of this issue is meant to be</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I see that 3.9 (7055) displays underscores - I installed the Shout</DIV><DIV>package (to get syntax highlighting back) and see that there is</DIV><DIV>a preference for underscore vs :=. Is it the idea that the appearance</DIV><DIV>of the left arrow will eventually be built into the code editor, and for</DIV><DIV>the interim those who prefer left-arrow should use bear with the</DIV><DIV>underscore actually appearing in code? </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Would like to vote that that the the elegance, and combined</DIV><DIV>millennia's worth of neural wiring among smalltalkers who've become </DIV><DIV>accustomed to the left-assignment key far outweighs the danger</DIV><DIV>of off-putting newbies. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If it's too difficult to work it into 3.9 for technical reasons, then no</DIV><DIV>complaints there (especially since I'm not volunteering to make it</DIV><DIV>happen) - just don't think that purported "confusion" is a good reason to </DIV><DIV>deny use of left-arrow as an option. I strongly disagree with the idea that</DIV><DIV>having Paragraph editor "magically" display one or the other is somehow </DIV><DIV>a bad thing. Just my $0.02.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Jay</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">On 6/7/06, Todd Blanchard <</SPAN></FONT><A href="http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=4752550&i=0"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000EF">tblanchard@...</FONT></SPAN></FONT></A><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">> wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">></SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">> I would also suggest that the left arrow is off-putting to newbies. There's</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">> no obvious key for it, and it causes a lot of confusion for the user trying</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">> to figure out how to make one. So it ends up being a barrier to entry.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">> Making ParagraphEditor "magically" replace things (or render them specially)</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">> isn't really better.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10.5px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">Even worse, the tranditional assignment operator looks an aweful lot</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">like the figure that is silk screened on my "Backspace" key (at least</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">on my keyboard). ;-)</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10.5px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">> I think it's time to let this convention go - it's more trouble than its</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">> worth.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10.5px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">With that said, I really *love* the single left arrow for assignment.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">I am saddened by the trend to eject it, but I understand it might not</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">be the best for the long run.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10.5px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">I guess I can get used to := instead, but it just feels so "programmery".</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10.5px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">Regards,</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10.5px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">John</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10.5px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 13px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">--</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;">progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10.5px;"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></BODY></HTML>