<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On May 28, 2007, at 10:53 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">I'd bet that Balloon3D's software renderer is at least as fast as Mesa's. Both are currently too slow for the OLPC (which runs at 1200x900x16 on a performance-challenged 400 Mhz CPU). That's why Mesa is not shipped on the OLPC system.</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>I just happened to have played with Alice and the Bunny in Squeak 3.4 on a Pentium 166 laptop running Windows 98 SE *yesterday*. In that little postage-stamp sized window of the "Play With Me" demo, performance was surprisingly snappy. I got about five frames per operation (bunny turn: left, etc.). Almost seemed faster than Morphic on the poor thing...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Cheers,</DIV><DIV>Tim</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></BODY></HTML>