<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Russell N Hyer wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">I have a desire to learn about the inner workings of the sound</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">recorder program that lives inside a squeak image. However, owing to</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">rot and poor maintenance of my ancient collection of Apple Macs, I am</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">almost forced to do my work on my PowerBook Duo with 4MB of RAM.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Because of this requirement, I am looking for a pre-shrunken image</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">with that application in to tinker with. Because of the age of the Mac</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">I am looking for an adequate squeak app to interpret it from (needn't</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">be the latest) - but even though the new squeak VMs support ancient</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Mac too (I've run it on 7.6, my Duo runs Mac 7.1 and has large (or is</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">that: low) memory problems (=4MB).</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>I have run Squeak versions 1.1 through 2.x on a Powerbook Duo 280 and can tell you that it is very, very slow. Mine currently has 40MB of RAM, but even screen redraw is pretty annoying. It is better when it is docked and I can run in 256 colors or Thousands of colors, but on the built-in display (grayscale or B&W) the machine just crawls. Even typing text takes caution, as each character I type shows up on screen slower than a 300 baud modem.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If warnings like these still don't dissuade you, I would recommend using the version 1.31 image & VM. I was running System 7.5.5 with all patches. (Come to think of it, I don't know if 1.31 has any decent sound support... I can't remember)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>(Also, I got the 36MB memory module for the Duo on eBay for very, very cheap. You may want to look into that, though if you are not in the United States you might have to pay large shipping fees.)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Cheers,</DIV><DIV>Tim</DIV><DIV><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>