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class=734055211-28062007>Sounds great Jason. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=734055211-28062007> I wish we can have hundreds of
experimenters with, primary courage and secondary intelligent use of resources,
to have initiatives like yours,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>De:</B> squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org
[mailto:squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] <B>En nombre de </B>J
J<BR><B>Enviado el:</B> Miércoles, 27 de Junio de 2007 18:37<BR><B>Para:</B>
squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org<BR><B>Asunto:</B> Paying for
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<DIV></DIV>Hi all,<BR><BR>As you have probably seen, I see a lot of things I
want to see done in Smalltalk, but I don't have time to do any of it. My
"eyes are bigger then my stomach" as it were. So it occurred to me today
that a possible solution to this problem would be to simply pay to have some
of the work done.<BR><BR>So to that end, I would like anyone who would be
interested to let me know. I will set up a mailing list for any people
would want to be take (or give) projects. I will suggest my project on
the list, you can answer me privately (or publicly) with your bids. I
will select someone, and publicly announce that it has been filled.
After that it depends; we can talk publicly over the list, or use an
intermediate like rentacoder [1] to ensure that both sides are safe.
That is, I don't want to pay if I can't use the finished product, nor do I
want the person doing the work to fear that they may get nothing for
it.<BR><BR>We can negotiate the different things, time frames, price,
features. I mostly only be doing smallish projects. The payouts
would probably be on the order of $50 - $100 USD but the projects should be
small (and often) as well. And if this catches on, there could be much
bigger projects or people may chip in to sweeten some of the more interesting
pots.<BR><BR>Some people have expressed concerns about bounties in the past
that people might have their feelings hurt if they don't get picked. So
I would just like to point out, this has nothing to do with the board or
anything else. This is just something I wanted to do. I will
choose the person the same way any worker is chosen for a given, i.e. the best
fit/price/availability/reputation.<BR><BR>The payout will work in the same way
it's done on rentacoder: We have a bid off for who will do the job,
negotiate the parameters and pick the best overall fit, then you do the work,
then when it's finished if I accept you are paid. If I don't accept you
can try to bring it up to spec, decide to give up, or ask for an arbitration
if you think you have met requirements. In the case of the rentacoder
site, the payment money is deposited as soon as I accept a bidder so no one
can "take their ball and go home".<BR><BR>I'm a big experimenter so many of
the projects may be that you get paid and then never hear anything more
(because I decide I don't want to go that way after all). But hopefully
the money can soften that blow a little. :)<BR><BR>And lastly, I know Squeak
is largely a gift community, and I don't want to upset that. I think it
is good that people give things to the community (and I will most likely
release everything I pay for). I don't want to create a situation where
everyone expects to be paid for everything. This is simply a case that I
have not managed to get anyone interested in my ideas by talking, I can't
realize them myself (this decade anyway), so my last option is to
pay.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Jason<BR><BR>[1] The advantage of using
rentacoder as an intermediate is that it's established, and everyone will see
the projects so it will be more smalltalk exposure.<BR><BR>
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