<div class="gmail_quote">Hi,<br> I just wanted to let you know that the Smalltalks 2007 presentations are available at <a href="https://www.dc.uba.ar/events/smalltalks/2007/presentaciones" target="_blank">https://www.dc.uba.ar/events/smalltalks/2007/presentaciones
</a> <br> Most of them are in English although not all.<br> You can look some pictures at <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/smalltalks2007" target="_blank">http://picasaweb.google.com/smalltalks2007</a> and <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/WeybridgeWay/1erCongresoArgentinoDeSmalltalk" target="_blank">
http://picasaweb.google.com/WeybridgeWay/1erCongresoArgentinoDeSmalltalk</a><br><br> I wanted to give a public "Thanks" to ESUG for their support (DVD, book, ideas, etc), Viewpoints, Dan Ingalls, James Robertson, John Sarkela and
<font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" lang="ES">Bruce Badger </span></font>for the videos. Stef and Noury sent me something to read but finally I did not have the time to do it (sorry). Also, to all the sponsors that helped us with the conference.
<br><br> Below are some comments we got in the Argentine Smalltalk lists (first in Spanish and then in English, translated by Andres Valloud).<br> It is very hard for me to find the right words to express how happy we are with the outcome of the conference, not only for the amount of people that came but also for their kindness and technical level of the presentations. Thanks to all.
<br><br> Hernan<br><br>===========<br>"Gente<br><br>Queria contarles que estuve en el "Primer Congreso de Smalltalk"<br> y aprovechar felicitar a la excelente organización, lo interesante de las
<br>charlas<br>los proyectos mostrados ,todo en verdad todo excelente!!!.<br><br>Gracias por todo.<br><br>Marcelo Diaz Cortez"<br><br><br>"Folks,<br><br>I
wanted to tell you that I was at the "First Smalltalk Conference", and
wanted to take advantage of the opportunity to congratulate the
excellent organization, how interesting the presentations and projects
shown were, everything truly everything was excellent!!!
<br><br>Thank you for everything.<br><br>Marcelo Diaz Cortez"<br>===========<br><br><br>===========<br>"Muy bueno!<br><br>Yo también quiero aprovechar para felicitar a los organizadores por lo bueno<br>que estuvo todo.
<br>Espero ansiosamente la noticia de que se comienza a organizar le de 2008.<br><br>Saludos<br> GallegO "<br><br><br>"Very good!<br><br>I
also want to take advantage of the opportunity to congratulate the
organizers because of how good everything was. I anxiously wait for
the news that the 2008 connference is beginning to be organized.
<br><br>Greetings,<br> GallegO [Sebastian Calvo]"<br>===========<br><br><br><br>===========<br>"Por motivos laborales no pude disfrutar todas la conferencias, pero las que<br>asisti ayer estuvieron interesantes, lamento perderme hoy la de GLASS...
<br>espero que el contenido del hand out se publique :) "<br><br>"I
could not enjoy all the presentations due to work, but the ones I saw
yesterday were interesting. I am sad I am missing the one about GLASS
today... I hope the hand out material is published :) [Ezequiel S Mc
Govern]"
<br>===========<br><br><br>===========<br>"Hola a todos,<br><br>Acabo de regresar del "1er. Congreso Argentino de Smalltalk" y me<br>adhiero completamente a los conceptos de Marcelo.<br>La organización del evento y el nivel de las exposiciones fue excelente
<br>sin duda, pero lo que quisiera destacar por sobre todas las cosas fue el<br>ambiente de camaradería, la buena onda y la excelente predisposición de<br>los organizadores para solucionar cualquier tipo de inconvenientes.
<br><br>Mis felicitaciones a los organizadores, a los que expusieron y a todos<br>los "nuevos" y "viejos" amigos con los que tuve el placer de compartir<br>muy gratos momentos.<br><br>Gracias a todos,
<br>
<br>Francisco "<br><br>"Hello everyone,<br><br>I just came back from
the "First Smalltalk Conference of Argentina" and I totally agree with
what Marcelo said. The event organization and the level of the
presentations was without doubt excellent, but what I'd like to
emphasize above everything else is the friendly environment, the
positive attitude and the excellent manner in which the organizers made
themselves available to solve any kind of problems.
<br><br>My congratulations to the organizers, to those that gave
presentations, and to all the "new" and "old" friends with whom I had
the pleasure of sharing very nice moments.<br><br>Thanks to all,<br>
<br>Francisco [A. Lizarralde]"<br>===========<br><br><br>===========<br>"Hola, que tal<br>Me sumo a todo lo dicho... estuve los dos días completos y lo disfruté<br>muchisimo. Lo único que lamento es no haber podido asistir al workshop de
<br>glass, pero si faltaba otro día al laburo se me iba a complicar :)<br>Felicitaciones a todos los organizadores y participantes, gracias al evento<br>estamos todos un poco más cerca hoy.<br><br>Ojalá se repita,<br>Esteban "
<br><br>"Hello, how's everything...<br><br>I agree with everything that
has been said... I was there the whole two days and I enjoyed it a
lot. The only thing I regret is to have been unable to go to the GLASS
workshop, but it would have been complicated to miss another day at
work. Congratulations to all the organizers and attendants, thanks to
the event today we are all a bit closer to each other.
<br><br>I hope this happens again,<br>Esteban [Lorenzano]"<br>===========<br><br><br>===========<br>"Me sumo a las felicitaciones.<br>El encuentro tuvo muy buen nivel y estuvo muy bien organizado.<br>Han demostrado que se puede hacer un congreso en serio, sin que por ello
<br>haya careteadas.<br>Gracias a todos los organizadores.<br><br>Norberto Manzanos "<br><br><br>"I join the congratulations.<br><br>The
event had a very good level and was very well organized. You have
shown that it is possible to do a serious conference, without
seriousness implying being fake. [difficult to translate intent
directly]
<br><br>Thanks to all the organizers.<br><br>Norberto Manzanos"<br>===========<br><br><br>===========<br>"Puede que esto ya se vaya convirtiendo en offtopic, pero también quiero<br>felicitar a la organización y a la calidad de lo (lamentablemente poco) que
<br>pude presenciar del congreso. Espero que no se corte aquí, pueden contar con<br>la UAI para organizarlo en el futuro, o para organizar alguna charla en<br>particular. Norberto puede dar fe de que el auditorio está bastante bien!
<br><br>Un abrazo para todos<br><br>Gonzalo Zabala "<br><br><br>"Maybe
this will begin to become off topic, but I also want to congratulate
the organization and the quality of what I could see of the conference
(regrettably not a lot). I hope this will not end here, you can count
on UAI [another university with which Gonzalo is associated] to
organize it in the future, or to organize a talk in particular.
Norberto can attest that the auditorium is quite good!
<br><br>Hugs to all [culturally ok, equivalent of "cheers to all"]<br><br>Gonzalo Zabala"<br>===========<br><br><br>===========<br>"Bueno, no se si offtopic o no, pero para mi también estuvo muy bueno,
<br>lamentablemente solo pude asistir el lunes, esperemos que se mantenga<br>como actividad en todos los diciembres futuros<br><br>Abrazo<br><br>Juan José Evangelista "<br><br><br>"Well,
I do not know if it's off topic or not, but I also think that it was
very good, unfortunately I could only attend on Monday, let's hope that
this will continue to be an activity of all Decembers in the future.
<br><br>Hugs [same as above]<br><br>Juan Jose Evangelista"<br>===========<br><br><br>===========<br>" Hola Andrés,<br>No nos conocemos directamente, aunque te he leído en varios foros. Desde<br>SUGAR, pasando por Squeak, etc.
<br>Simplemente quería escribirte para felicitarte por el congreso.<br>Para mí fue sorprendente (básicamente por la convocatoria, inesperada para<br>mí) además de lindo haber podido estar ahí.<br>Lamento no haber podido colaborar o participar más activamente.
<br>Pero bueno, eso, felicitaciones y gracias por el esfuerzo.<br><br>Saludos,<br>Dan "<br><br><br>"Hello Andres,<br><br>We do not know each other in person, although I've read you in various mailing lists (SUGAR, Squeak, etc).
<br><br>I wanted to write to you simply to congratulate you for the conference.<br><br>It was surprising (mostly because of the amount of attendees, unexpected for me) and very nice to attend for me.<br><br>I
regret having been unable to collaborate or participate more actively.
But well, just that, congratulations and thank you for the effort.
<br><br>Cheers,<br>Dan [Rozenfarb]"<br>===========<br><br><br><br>===========<br>" Gente, hoy por la mañana estuve en Smalltalks 2007, queria comentarles<br>algunas opiniones que me quedaron luego de mi asistencia...
<br><br>Primero agradecer a todos los que la organizaron porque todos creo que<br>fuimos muy bien atendidos (y seguramente seguira asi durante estos dias),<br>una registracion de lujo con regalitos y todo!<br><br>En la introduccion presentada por Hernan Wilkinson estuvo muy original los
<br>videos, y luego en la charla inaugural de Máximo Prieto me gusto mucho su<br>enfasis en decir lo que ya hemos hablado muchas veces creo en la lista: No<br>hemos hecho nada en todo este tiempo, no se ha realmente avanzado desde el
<br>primer smalltalk. Y aunque no puedo estar mas de acuerdo, realmente siento<br>que no puedo gritarlo a los 4 vientos porque no soy quien para hacerlo :)<br>Me gustaria agregar que me hubiese gustado que en la introduccion, ya sea en
<br>la presentacion o en la charla de Maximo, y pensando en que se llamaba 1ra<br>Conferencia Smalltalk Argentina, no se hablo de la historia de Smalltalk en<br>nuestro pais! Creo que aunque seguramente es mas corta que la historia de
<br>Smalltalk en si, ameritaba un parrafo minimamente.<br><br>Luego, estuve en la charla de Guiye Sapaya sobre un framework muy copado<br>llamado Zafiro, que les permitio montar toda su linea de aplicaciones sobre<br>una plataforma comun y como eso le permite usar smalltalkers para hacer lo
<br>que saben hacer mejor :) (me encanto esa frase, lo admito).<br>Yo, como No Smalltalker activo (pero si de corazon jejeje), tratare de<br>robarle algunas opiniones y consejos de cómo encarar un rediseño de una<br>aplicación como la que tuvieron que encarar en Infoil.
<br><br>La seccion de la empresa Mercap estuvo tambien muy interesante, sobre todo<br>la parte de Tests, pensando en el tamaño de la aplicación que manejan fue<br>realmente muy util conocer como resolvieron las diferentes problematicas que
<br>se les fueron presentando. Yo ya conocia la utilidad y uso de los Unit<br>Tests, pero lo que realmente me intereso fue el planteo a nivel de empresa<br>que ellos llevaron a cabo... Seguramente me vendria barbaro que gente de la
<br>empresa donde trabajo y toma desiciones puedan ver un poco mas que el corto<br>plazo.<br><br>Luego me tuve que ir por razones laborales... Pero bueno, mis felicitaciones<br>a todos...<br><br>Por ultimo no puedo dejar de expresar mi desazon ( no se si llamarlo asi....
<br>Como que faltaba algo...) y aunque ya lo sabia de antemano realmente en el<br>lugar realmente lo senti... Y eso fue no ver la presencia de Smalltalking en<br>una conferencia como Smalltalks! Mas alla de las diferencias que puedan
<br>existir entre personas, yo, desde mi MUYYY humilde lugar, no puedo (todavia)<br>entender como pasan estas cosas todavia, quizas las entienda cuando sea mas<br>viejo, si es asi, disculpen este mail (o esta parte del mail )
<br><br>Saludos,<br>Leo "<br><br><br>"Folks,<br><br>This morning [Monday] I was at Smalltalks 2007, I wanted to tell you about some opinions I was left with after attending.<br><br>First
I want to thank all that organized it because I think all of us were
very well taken care of (and I am sure it will continue to be like this
during these days), a luxury registration with presents and everything!
<br><br>The introduction by Hernan Wilkinson had very original videos,
and then in the keynote by Maximo Prieto I really liked the emphasis on
what we have discussed in the list [Smalltalking] so many times: we
have not done anything in all this time, we have not really advanced
since the first Smalltalk. And even though I could not agree more, I
really feel that I cannot say that publicly because I am not qualified
to do so :). I would like to add that I would have liked for the
introduction, either in the conference opening or in Maximo's keynote
and considering the fact that it was the First Smalltalk Conference of
Argentina, to speak about the history of Smalltalk in Argentina! I
believe that, although surely it is shorter that Smalltalk's history,
it was worth a paragraph at least.
<br><br>Then, I was in the presentation by Guillermo Sapaya about a
very cool framework called Zafiro [Sapphire], that allowed them to
mount all their applications over a common platform, and how that
allows them to use Smalltalkers to do what they know to do best :) (I
really enjoyed that phrase, I admit).
<br><br>Myself, not being an active Smalltalker (although I have a
Smalltalker heart) will try to borrow some ideas and advice about how
to go about performing an application redesign such as the one they did
at InfOil.<br>
<br>Mercap's section was also very interesting, above all the material
about tests. Keeping the size of their application in mind, it was
really useful to knonw how they addressed several different problems
that they faced. I already knew about the usefulness and use of unit
tests, but what really interested me was the company wide approach they
took... surely it would be very nice to me if people that make
decisions where I work could see a bit more than just the short term.
<br><br>Then I had to leave due to work... but well, my congratulations to everybody...<br><br>Last,
I cannot help expressing my disappointment (I do not know if I should
call it that... it's as if something was missing...) and although I
knew it before hand when I was there I really felt it... and that was
not to see the presence of Smalltalking in a conference like
Smalltalks! Besides the differences that may exist between people, in
my VERY humble opinion, I cannot (yet) understand how these things
happen. Maybe I will understand them when I am older, and if that is
so, please excuse this email (or this part of this email).
<br><br>Cheers,<br>Leo [Leonardo di Marco]"<br>===========<br><br><br>===========<br>"Hola!<br> Felicitaciones por el Congreso. Tanto por su impecable organización<br>(no dudo que haya tenido que correr bastante para que los asistentes
<br>tuvieramos tantas comodidades e información) como por el nivel de las<br>charlas.<br> En lo personal me sirvió para conocer mucha gente y encontrar que<br>la comunidad Smalltalk es más grande y está más activa de lo que pensaba.
<br> Espero que el año próximo volver a participar en el II Congreso<br>Argentino de Smalltalk ya no como un simple espectador sino como un miembro<br>activo de la comunidad.<br><br>Nuevamente les hago llegar mis felicitaciones
<br><br>Carlos Enrique Rodriguez "<br><br>"Hello!<br><br>Congratulations
for the Conference, both because of your impeccable organization (I am
sure you will have had to run quite a bit for attendees to have so much
comfort and information) and because of the level of the presentations.
<br><br>Personally, this was useful for me to know a lot of people and
to find that the Smalltalk community is larger and more active than
what I thought.<br><br>I hope that next year I will again participate
in the Second Smalltalk Conference of Argentina not just as a simple
spectator, but also as an active member of the community.
<br><br>Again, my congratulations.<br><br>Carlos Enrique Rodriguez"<br>===========<br><br><br>===========<br>"Queria agraderles por todo el trabajo que hicieron, y por lo bien que salió<br>todo durante la conferencia.
<br>Al mismo tiempo quisiera disculparme por no haber asistido hoy al workshop<br>de GLASS ya que no me sentía bien. Ojala algun despistado que fue sin<br>anotarse haya podido aprovechar mi lugar.<br>Muchas gracias por todo, y espero que el anio que viene pueda hacerse
<br>nuevamente. Les ofrezco mi colaboración para el proximo evento, en todo lo<br>que los pueda ayudar.<br>Saludos,<br><br>Diego. "<br><br><br>"I wanted to thank you for all the work you did, and for how well everything went during the conference.
<br><br>At the same time I would like to apologize for not attending
the GLASS workshop today as I was not feeling well. I hope someone
without a reservation trying to attend anyway could use my place.<br><br>Thank
you so much for everything, and I hope that it will be done again next
year. I offer to collaborate with the next event with anything I may
help with.
<br><br>Cheers,<br>Diego [Roig, from JP Morgan]"<br>===========<br><br><br>Also, from Edgar J de Cleene, and in his own English...<br><br>===========<br>To my old and new friends.<br>To all community.<br>I don't have the John M McIntosh long history of goring to congress and no
<br>his gift for doing terrific trial reports.<br>But unlucky us, he sure is to busy for visit Argentina.<br>We have special video from Dan.<br>Tons or old kind of works.<br>A "bonus track" in form of a Gem Stone workshop.
<br>I'm not who is qualified to tell.<br><br>All my gratitude to UBA gang !!!<br><br>I'm on OVERLOAD state now, I unplug computers until Monday.<br><br>Stary tuned.<br><br>Edgar <br>===========<br><br>
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