<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 9, 2008 3:38 PM, Paul D. Fernhout <<a href="mailto:pdfernhout@kurtz-fernhout.com">pdfernhout@kurtz-fernhout.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
...<br><br>As I see it, you could look at the ubiquitousness of the JVM one of two ways<br>(or both at the same time :-). Either Smalltalk failed, because most people<br>are not using a pure Smalltalk VM. Or, on the other hand, Smalltalk<br>
succeeded enormously because just about everyone now programs with most of<br>the ideas you and Alan (and others) got going in a big way in the<br>1960s/1970s -- objects, garbage collection, a cross-platform virtual<br>machine, fancy IDEs like Eclipse, and so on, even to the point where a major<br>
technology company changes its stock ticker symbol to be the name of an<br>object-oriented virtual machine (JAVA). Maybe the the JVM and the world is<br>still not Smalltalk-ish 100%, and maybe there has been a lot of needless<br>
suffering along the way, but as I've heard, "first they ignore you, then<br>they laugh at you, then they fight you, and then you win." :-)<br></blockquote><div><br>Indeed - <a href="http://croquet.funkencode.com/2007/04/07/evolution-in-cyberspace-the-smalltalk-meme/">the power of the Smalltalk meme</a>! One other potentially huge benefit of Smalltalk-Java symbiosis is the increased opportunity to explore/exploit hardware support. While I remain very impressed with and interested in Plurion, diversity is good and there are many mulit-core and FPGA Java projects ongoing including <a href="http://www.rhythmeering.com/2007/10/19/fpga-based-processors-move-forward/">Sun's OpenSPARC</a>. <br>
<br>Cheers,<br><br>Laurence<br></div></div>