That is excellent news! Thank you.<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>- Stephen</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>P.S. While I think having good interoperability with the web world is important, part of me is saddened by the fact that we still have to live with the web...the web is crap. I hate it, I'm tried of it, I wish it would die already. We need something better...much better. And I think the opportunity for someone to invent that is right now. I think a lot of the discussion around Silverlight, Flash, Air, etc highlight the fact that people are hungry for something much better.</div>
<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>P.P.S. And I say this as someone that invested a lot of time a number of years ago working on Comanche.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Janko Mivšek <<a href="mailto:janko.mivsek@eranova.si">janko.mivsek@eranova.si</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Stephen,<br>
<br>
Well, yes, licenses again. We can relicence to MIT or whatever else,<br>
because for me all what is important is to use the code in accordance to<br>
the main rule on our world: a Golden Rule:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity</a><br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Janko<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<br>
Stephen Pair wrote:<br>
> Janko,<br>
><br>
> I hate to drag this up again, and maybe you've covered it before, but<br>
> could you share your reasoning behind licensing Aida as LGPL. Would you<br>
> consider also making it available under MIT? I personally am hesitant<br>
> to do anything with software under any L/GPL type license. I think<br>
> others have a similar concern and that might be an issue if a number of<br>
> the squeak websites used Aida. It's an honest question, I have no<br>
> agenda here (other than a concern over L/GPL type licenses).<br>
><br>
> - Stephen<br>
><br>
> P.S. My opinion on L/GPL is that these licenses served a useful purpose<br>
> and were a necessity to prevent Unix vendors from simply co-opting<br>
> Stallman's work at a time when open source wasn't the norm. But today,<br>
> the situation is much different. Open source is largely accepted and<br>
> its value well understood. GPL and LGPL impose unnecessary restrictions<br>
> on use and only serve to complicate matters. I can appreciate why<br>
> Stallman is so stuck on GPL given his experiences, but I think he's sort<br>
> of stuck in the past.<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Janko Mivšek <<a href="mailto:janko.mivsek@eranova.si">janko.mivsek@eranova.si</a><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:janko.mivsek@eranova.si">janko.mivsek@eranova.si</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Squeakers,<br>
><br>
> I'd like to announce that I'm seriously thinking about helping Squeak<br>
> community with stepping up as a WebTeam team leader.<br>
><br>
> Let me introduce myself a bit: I already have an experience building up<br>
> and maintaining content on Aida/Web site and I also got some experience<br>
> how to do promotion and how to do a Search Engine Optimizations (SEO).<br>
><br>
> That experience can help to improve a bit otherwise already very rich<br>
> Squeak website. Other possibility for improvement is to upgrade<br>
> technology behind website and here I can again contribute with<br>
> Aida/Scribo CMS, which is a base for Aida's website and is currently in<br>
> intense development, just adding blog support. That way a Squeak website<br>
> will also be a show point of most advanced technology Squeakers have.<br>
> Which is good in my opinion for Squeak and Smalltalk promotion in<br>
> general.<br>
><br>
> To conclude, I can contribute with maintaining content on one side but<br>
> also to upgrade the website technology to Aida/Scribo CMS, so that a<br>
> website will be modern, with fresh and relevant content and with all<br>
> things such site needs to have those days.<br>
><br>
> Janko<br>
><br>
> Ken Causey wrote:<br>
> > While I'm sure Karl welcomes your thanks it seems like maybe you and<br>
> > some others have missed the point. Karl is not fishing for comments.<br>
> > In the recent past he has repeatedly announced that he wishes to step<br>
> > down from leading the website team and would like to find a<br>
> replacement.<br>
> > He has not gotten any replies. He is now stating that he really is<br>
> > leaving with a specific deadline (the end of this month) and it<br>
> is now<br>
> > really time for someone to step up and lead the website team for the<br>
> > immediate future at the very least.<br>
> ><br>
> > Ken<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:29 -0300, Germán Arduino wrote:<br>
> >> I also wants to thank you. The site is updated, interesting,<br>
> complete and cool.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks you.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> 2008/3/13, Ron Teitelbaum <<a href="mailto:Ron@usmedrec.com">Ron@usmedrec.com</a><br>
</div></div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Ron@usmedrec.com">Ron@usmedrec.com</a>>>:<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> >>> Yes indeed thank you very much for your terrific service to the<br>
> community!<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Ron Teitelbaum<br>
> >>><br>
><br>
> >>> > Le 13/03/08, karl <<a href="mailto:karl.ramberg@comhem.se">karl.ramberg@comhem.se</a><br>
</div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:karl.ramberg@comhem.se">karl.ramberg@comhem.se</a>>> écrivait :<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> >>> ><br>
> >>> > >I've been Webteam leader on the Squeak website for quite a few<br>
> >>> > years,<br>
> >>> > >and have now totally lost time to keep that work, so Mars<br>
> 31 I will<br>
> >>> > >step down. It's been a fun and interesting experience to<br>
> maintain the<br>
> >>> > >website, ftp and mailing list.<br>
> >>> > ><br>
> >>> > >I recommend that people interested in Squeaks web<br>
> appearence join<br>
> >>> > the<br>
> >>> > >webteam and maybe lead the site into new and exiting areas.<br>
> >>> > ><br>
> >>> > ><br>
> >>> > >Karl<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > You did a very good job thank you very much for your time<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Janko Mivšek<br>
> AIDA/Web<br>
> Smalltalk Web Application Server<br>
> <a href="http://www.aidaweb.si" target="_blank">http://www.aidaweb.si</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
</div>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
--<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">Janko Mivšek<br>
AIDA/Web<br>
Smalltalk Web Application Server<br>
<a href="http://www.aidaweb.si" target="_blank">http://www.aidaweb.si</a><br>
<br>
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