+1. As a relative newbie I want to say how energized I feel by the level of discussion and breadth of innovation there is in the Squeak community. Its great to be one small fish in a fast flowing Amazon of a Smalltalk.<div>
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+1<br>
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And yes, I feel just as cheerful. Must be something in the air or so :-)<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Hi Pharaos (and Squeak-dev)! :)<br>
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Alert to Pharaos: This is a cross post! (hehe)<br>
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I just wanted to say (for whatever that is worth) that I like Pharo. And I like Squeak.org. And I like everyone doing stuff in/for/on Squeak/Pharo/Smalltalk/Huemul whatever.<br>
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I have Pharo on my disk. I just started playing in it for a toy project involving RB AST, RoelTyper etc.<br>
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But I do all Gjallar work on 3.10.2/LPF right now, it takes time moving a large project to a different baseline, so Gjallar will probably be on 3.10.2 for a while. But nothing prevents us from testing out Pharo later on - whatever works the best I say. Gjallar is also 95% ported to GS these days.<br>
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I agree with Keith/Matthew that making good tools that can *span* different forks/communities *must* be a good thing for us all to have. All tools don't need to be spanning, but it doesn't hurt if *some* are - right?<br>
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I *also* agree with Pharo people that hey, Pharo is a fork - we/you can do whatever we/you like! And that is good - it's the strength of Pharo. If Pharo diverts too much in "base stuff" it might turn into a weakness - but we just don't know these things, it is still to be seen.<br>
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It is all about balance, benefits, etc. And we don't need to get angry with each other do we? :) Trust me, it just burns your energy!<br>
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I have code that seems to be doing fine in Pharo - SocketStream comes to mind. I know Pharo seem to be more inclined to use Universes than SM - fine with me, no problem.<br>
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I hope to move SM forward in some way, and I hope it can still be loaded/used from within Pharo - even if it gets thrown out soon (I think I read something about that). I also intend to use both Pharo, Squeak or whatever works best for my different tasks.<br>
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And finally I hope to revive DeltaStreams and make that work in Pharo as well as most other Squeak flavors.<br>
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We are all Squeakers, right? :)<br>
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regards, Göran<br>
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PS. I am not sure why I am so damn cheerful, perhaps it is the SURGE I seem to feel in the Squeak community - so many things going on all over the place... ;)<br>
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