<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Sep 20, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Michael van der Gulik wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Ross Boylan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ross@biostat.ucsf.edu">ross@biostat.ucsf.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I'm starting some new projects, one on squeak and the other on seaside.<br> Both use magma, and the latter will probably use the pharo-based images,<br> since seaside is using that as a development platform.<br> <br> Is there any namespace or similar mechanism that it would be advisable<br> to use?<br></blockquote><div><br>Not really. People usually prefix their class names to avoid naming collisions.<br><br>I'm developing a namespaces architecture that will run on Squeak. It works and I'm writing namespaced code using it, but it is not ready for general use. If people are interested, I could concentrate my efforts on making it usable, but so far I've seen more disinterest than interest.<br> <br><a href="http://gulik.pbworks.com/Namespaces">http://gulik.pbworks.com/Namespaces</a> - including links to an image.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I think this work is important for more wide-spread acceptance of Squeak Smalltalk and its forks. I know it is only anecdotal evidence, but one of the first things I missed when starting an actual project was namespaces. After using languages that have support for namespaces, using the widely accepted practice of "just prefixing your classes with a two letter prefix" seems quaint and archaic. While that practice gets the job done, it's a turn-off to me, and I imagine that others coming to the language feel the same. </div><div><br></div><div>So while you may be getting disinterest from the established community, again, I think that it would boost the popularity and acceptance by experienced programmers coming to Smalltalk from other 'namespaced' languages. </div><div><br></div><div>DZ</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br><br>Gulik.<br></div></div><br>-- <br><a href="http://gulik.pbwiki.com/">http://gulik.pbwiki.com/</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>