<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/12/16 K. K. Subramaniam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:subbukk@gmail.com">subbukk@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Wednesday 16 December 2009 11:47:50 pm José Luis Redrejo wrote:<br>
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> b) has caused the current delay in Debian, because I've been waiting for 6<br>
> months, just in case anybody wants to help. I've already given up, so I<br>
> will upload the latest version before the end of this month. Before the<br>
> setting up of the collaborative project I kept the squeak-vm very updated<br>
> in Debian. In fact I used to compile it from svn, to get the latest<br>
> patches, trying to make the images work with the newest plugins.<br>
</div>José,<br>
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What do you think of the new launcher scripts - squeak and squeak.sh? Do they<br>
have enough flexibility for a distro packager?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>squeak.sh has the same problem I've discussed once again in this list for the last four years: they are developer focused. I don't have anything against a developer view, but I want the squeak packages being end-user friendly. I'm very focused/biased on the educational uses of Squeak, and I don't think a console script is a good idea these days.</div>
<div>I will integrate the changes these scripts have, so the one I use in the package can be called from a terminal, but I want to keep the gnome/kde and mime integration I added to the squeak-vm package.</div><div><br></div>
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Building plugins is currently painful, I agree. Perhaps there should be two<br>
packages - squeakvm (runtime) and squeakvm-dev (plugin development).<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The problem comes when new etoys images do need those plugins to work properly, and they are just experimental works somebody does and nobody maintains later.</div><div>
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(branching this discussion to vm-dev)<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm subscribed to vm-dev, so no cc'ed is needed.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>José L.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Subbu<br>
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