<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div style="font-size:15px"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br></span></font></div><div style="font-size:15px">Eliot wrote:</div><div style="font-size:15px"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>I suggest you do need to see <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/clay_shirky_on_institutions_versus_collaboration.html" target="_blank">http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/clay_shirky_on_institutions_versus_collaboration.html</a> and think about its implications.</div> </div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>and it seems to me you've only seen the surface. Of course we're moving from institutional to collaborative modes of interaction. This community already has. The underlying implications that you've missed are (for me, there are probably others)</div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>The implication you have missed is that we discussed this 3 years ago, that we wanted the NON INSTITUTIONAL APPROACH. That is what the bob process was developed for.</div><div><br></div><div>Andreas then used the institution to IMPOSE his will, and instituted trunk, so we have regressed back to the institution dictating how development is done.</div><div><br></div><div>Keith</div></body></html>