<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size: 17px; "><blockquote type="cite">If you don't like process X, the way to persuade the community not to follow Andreas is to provide an alternative. Keith, it sounds to me like you've got clear ideas about what a better alternative would be, and have the tools realize that vision. To that end, I suggest the following steps:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size: 17px; "><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size: 17px; ">My time, and availability to do any of that ended when Andreas did what he did.<br></blockquote><br style="font-size: 17px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px; ">A shame. I had hoped that your decision to reengage the community this way was a sign that you were ready to pursue your vision despite the setback you've suffered. If that's not your purpose... um, why all the fuss?</span><br style="font-size: 17px; "><br style="font-size: 17px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px; ">Colin</span><br style="font-size: 17px; "></div></blockquote></div><div style="font-size: 17px; "><br></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px; ">Hi Colin,</span><div><br style="font-size: 17px; "><div style="font-size: 17px; ">My decision to re-engage, was out of the realisation that, I don't have anywhere to go at all with my code base much beyond a year hence, because when I tried pharo 1.0 I didn't like it at all. I even thought I might humble myself and try Metacello, to see if it really was offering more than S/P, and I don't think it fundamentally is.</div><div style="font-size: 17px; "><br></div><div style="font-size: 17px; ">In discussions in irc, some were asking about getting MC up and running in Cuis.</div><div style="font-size: 17px; ">So then I tried Cuis and I did like it as far as it goes, which isn't yet far enough to run MC let alone seaside or pier. </div><div style="font-size: 17px; "><br></div><div style="font-size: 17px; ">So, as it turns out this is where the Cuis discussions are, and I signed back up. If Cuis had a separate mailing list, I would not have shown my face here again. </div><div style="font-size: 17px; "><br></div><div style="font-size: 17px; ">I think Cuis has potential, since all the things that interest me (apart from adopting a Logging API to replace Transcript show: , and replacing FileDirectory) are external to the kernel of Cuis. Juan has stated he doesnt care about anything other than having a good kernel. So that is promising, no board to mess things up with politics.</div><div style="font-size: 17px; "><br></div><div style="font-size: 17px; ">In Cuis-land a lot of the contributions that are being made to "trunk" would be in external packages anyway, including changes to morphic. This had been what we were aiming to achieve with putting AtomicLoading as top priority, to be able to make larger subsystems like Morphic externally manageable and loadable, so as to enable changes by revolution rather than evolution. I do think cuis + atomic loading would be cool to have.</div><div style="font-size: 17px; "><br></div><div style="font-size: 17px; "><div>On my return, I also discovered that clearly my absence has not been of any concern. Since the board had not done anything about the "terms of reference" request I made 5 months ago, this is why I got pissed off on the day after the board meeting and had a proper rant. Apparently the board doesn't care how they treat people, and the board now represents the squeak community, until that changes, I see no reason to participate with squeak, its no fun.</div><div><br></div><div>Overall, since I have recently learned how rape and abuse trauma may be cured, I have developed a 5 year therapy programme for resolving Multiple Personality Disorder, which I am being asked to teach, and also a cure for tourettes and dispraxia is possibly close behind, my time really would be better spent on more important things; video documenting case studies, performing research and actually helping people. Unfortunately this doesn't pay the bills (it is unethical to charge), if anyone would like to sponsor me to help people instead, I would happily drop coding and leave you all alone for good.</div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br></div></div><div style="font-size: 17px; ">Keith</div><div style="font-size: 17px; "><br></div></div></body></html>