On 28 April 2010 01:06, Bert Freudenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" target="_blank">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div><div><div>On 28.04.2010, at 00:23, Michael Davies wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>The new UI work and the increasing use of "one-click images" get rid of two of the obstacles that have put many of these casual browsers off trying Squeak; </div>
</div></blockquote><br></div></div><div>That caught my eye. How do people actually develop with "one-click images"? I mean, I came up with that concept in the first place, but it was meant for deploying applications, not for development. You can't even save the image under a different name. So while I see the appeal to people giving it a casual look, do you really think that should be the default download?</div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica;">- Bert -</span></div></span></div></font></div></blockquote><div><br>The great thing about the one-click image is that it's such a powerful way to get people hooked. If you've got, say, a Mandelbrot generator that you want to show to people, it's great to be able to drop it into a one-click image, put it and an appealing image on your blog and say to the world "just download it and run it, it works identically on Windows, OS X and Linux, oh and if you want to understand how it works, the source code's included, oh and it's got a powerful development environment in there as well". People can then get a taste for the Squeak environment and perhaps explore the development tools without even caring that there's an "image" there. Once you've captured their interest and they start thinking about using Squeak themselves, they'll be more willing to put in that little bit of effort to understand what images and sources and changes and FFI and DLLs and VMs and changesets and mczs and packages all mean.<br>
<br>I wouldn't make a one-click image the default download that you're pointed to on <a href="http://squeak.org" target="_blank">squeak.org</a>, but you question did make me think; perhaps there should be a "Taste of Squeak" one-click image based on the 4.1 release, with a few of the more appealing packages pre-installed - a combination of 4.1's un-threatening UI and in-image help, with some of Edgar's FunSqueak ideas could be really attractive.<br>
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