<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>The problem with having stuff in the image by default is that it gets used ;)</div><div><br></div><div>Once it is used all over the place you cannot unload it anymore.</div><div><br></div><div>We have no good way of preventing such "misuse". If we take it into the image, we would basically have to say that it is now a core feature. Which may or may not be a good idea. </div><div><br></div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="font-family: Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; ">- Bert -</span></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></div></div><div>On 04.05.2010, at 12:56, Casey Ransberger wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite">+1<div><br></div><div>Having a regexp engine in a known good state that jives with your release build is going to be key to grabbing mindshare from the likes of Ruby IMHO. When I was first looking at Squeak, one of my first questions was "how do I do regular expressions?" When the answer turned out to be "Go find a version of this package that works with this release and figure out how to install it" I nearly wrote Squeak off and went on to download a Haskell compiler instead.</div>
<div><br></div><div>While I'd expect a regexp engine to be unloadable via #unloadAllKnownPackages, (hence not present in a "core" image,) I would even go so far as to say that we should probably be shipping it (and testing it) with the "standard" image.</div>
<div><br></div><div></2cents></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Bert Freudenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">On 04.05.2010, at 03:58, Hannes Hirzel wrote:<br>
> Yes, that's an idea. However if I have the code snippet easily<br>
> available in the 'Extending the System' workspace, then that's fine<br>
> for me the time being.<br>
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> In fact I consider the Regex package to be a bit weak in terms of<br>
> functionality but I think we do not have anything more comprehensive.<br>
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> It is easy for me to install a new image, run the updates and then<br>
> execute a few more statements to configure the image for a particular<br>
> purpose.<br>
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> --Hannes<br>
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> On 5/3/10, Ian Trudel <<a href="mailto:ian.trudel@gmail.com">ian.trudel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Why isn't Regex included in the core image? It's a question I have in<br>
>> my mind for a while. Dealing with text in Smalltalk often results in a<br>
>> lot of code to write. Regular expressions are useful. Many programming<br>
>> languages nowadays have a Regexp engine included.<br>
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>> Ian.<br>
>> --<br>
>> <a href="http://mecenia.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://mecenia.blogspot.com/</a><br>
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</div>Seems to be a perfect example of a package that could be bundled with a release but not be loaded by default?<br>
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