What buttons?<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXE1XwdtX1M">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXE1XwdtX1M</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/6/25 Squeak List <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:squeaklist@yahoo.com">squeaklist@yahoo.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Michael,<br>
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the specific problem (which i thought i spelled out fairly well): i cannot find how to make cog update from TRUNK: the BUTTONS do not work in the preferences...<br>
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which means that when i do, or try to reset the update site, the buttons just stop working - nothing happens when i click on them - they do not even PRETEND to be "clicked on... :)":<br>
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" Have you set the update site to <a href="http://source.squeak.org/trunk" target="_blank">http://source.squeak.org/trunk</a> in the preferences(under Monticello)?"...<br>
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YES - and the buttons do nothing after i do that. i click on any button, or anything whatsoever, and the preference goes back to what it was before... i cannot "save" the preference to update via trunk (under Monticello)... that is THE issue :)<br>
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and that was the ONLY point i was trying to make :)<br>
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Thanks for replying with in a helpful way :)<br>
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ken<br>
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Hi,<br>
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I'm sending this response to squeak-dev as well, as that is the more<br>
appropriate place ...<br>
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Cog works well with trunk images; you need to have the latest updates<br>
in there, though. If I understand your message correctly, you seem to<br>
be unable to update to the latest trunk, right? Have you set the<br>
update site to <a href="http://source.squeak.org/trunk" target="_blank">http://source.squeak.org/trunk</a> in the preferences<br>
(under Monticello)?<br>
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Once all the updates are in, Cog starts up my trunk image, and I'm<br>
enjoying the speedup. :-)<br>
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Pre-built releases take time to prepare, and please bear in mind that<br>
Cog was released just some few days ago. Also, Cog does have its<br>
glitches (I experience some difficulties with bytecode simulation, but<br>
also with stepping in the debugger - report upcoming) and is probably<br>
not 100 % stable for all purposes that the non-Cog VMs were well<br>
suited for.<br>
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To summarise, while Cog is the "latest and greatest", as you put it,<br>
it should be considered beta. The stable Squeak release is 4.1 plus<br>
the latest VM, and in my actually not so humble opinion it is<br>
completely sufficient to provide pre-built releases for *that*.<br>
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Perhaps I misunderstood you here and there: apologies for that, then.<br>
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Best,<br>
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Michael<br>
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On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Squeak List <<a href="mailto:squeaklist@yahoo.com">squeaklist@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> First, MANY thanks to everyone for bringing Cog to Squeak :)<br>
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> yet, i go to:<br>
> "og, a Squeak JIT VM with 2x-10x Speedup Released<br>
> Eliot Miranda announced that Teleplace released under a MIT license his work on a long awaited and anticipated new JIT virtual engine for Squeak and friends called Cog, with 2x-10x improvement in performance. It is available on our ftp site."<br>
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> and find no way to get Cog working at all with Trunk... it seems like update options were released some time ago for 4.1, when folks were having similar problems - but i cannot get cog to accept any update preferences...<br>
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> what happened to the COMPLETELY PRE-BUILT releases????<br>
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> i think this is what confuses/infuriates some folks: expectation is to click a link and download the COMPLETE latest and greatest: here you have cog and functioning options INCLUDED in what you download from <a href="http://squeak.org" target="_blank">squeak.org</a>, that allow you to choose from whatever update stream you choose... at least Trunk...<br>
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> windows vista 32 bit here.<br>
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> i cannot find how to make cog update from TRUNK: the BUTTONS do not work in the preferences... and i am amazed that i should have to look ANYWHERE beyond <a href="http://SQUEAK.ORG" target="_blank">SQUEAK.ORG</a> to waste time... the program works (except the updating via TRUNK) - did i miss the message that explains how to fix this (possibly/probably) - and if/since i did miss that clearly spelled out message, why on earth is it not spelled out clearly on <a href="http://squeak.org?" target="_blank">squeak.org?</a>?? or did i miss it there also?<br>
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> otherwise, it all is very interesting :)<br>
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> and it seems that is working very well (cog) for some folks.<br>
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> i would just like to ask someone to CLEARLY EXPLAIN how to get the new Cog system working in Windows: so that i can use Trunk updates.<br>
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> sorry, but it just seems like when i download the Cog from <a href="http://squeak.org" target="_blank">squeak.org</a>, it should not have problems connecting to Trunk... and that updating from Trunk should be a built in option in preferences... to me at least... something that you could turn off if you were not interested....<br>
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> thanx all,<br>
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> ken<br>
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