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<P>i did everything in your video. many times...</P>
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<P>and exact same as before: it updates to 9957 - and does not save the preference to update from Trunk...</P>
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<P>thanks for your efforts - i appreciate it.</P>
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<P>ken</P>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Alexander Lazarević <laza@blobworks.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, June 25, 2010 5:27:12 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] COG, Trunk, and squeak.org<BR></FONT><BR>What buttons?<BR><BR>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXE1XwdtX1M<BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote>Michael,<BR><BR>the specific problem (which i thought i spelled out fairly well): i cannot find how to make cog update from TRUNK: the BUTTONS do not work in the preferences...<BR><BR>which means that when i do, or try to reset the update site, the buttons just stop working - nothing happens when i click on them - they do not even PRETEND to be "clicked on... :)":<BR><BR>" Have you set the update site to http://source.squeak.org/trunk in the preferences(under Monticello)?"...<BR><BR>YES - and the buttons do nothing after i do that. i click on any button, or anything whatsoever, and the preference goes back to what it was before... i cannot "save" the preference to update via trunk (under Monticello)... that is THE issue :)<BR><BR>and that was the ONLY point i was trying to make :)<BR><BR>Thanks for replying with in a
helpful way :)<BR><BR>ken<BR>
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<DIV class=h5><BR><BR><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>I'm sending this response to squeak-dev as well, as that is the more<BR>appropriate place ...<BR><BR>Cog works well with trunk images; you need to have the latest updates<BR>in there, though. If I understand your message correctly, you seem to<BR>be unable to update to the latest trunk, right? Have you set the<BR>update site to <A href="http://source.squeak.org/trunk" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://source.squeak.org/trunk</A> in the preferences<BR>(under Monticello)?<BR><BR>Once all the updates are in, Cog starts up my trunk image, and I'm<BR>enjoying the speedup. :-)<BR><BR>Pre-built releases take time to prepare, and please bear in mind that<BR>Cog was released just some few days ago. Also, Cog does have its<BR>glitches (I experience some difficulties with bytecode simulation, but<BR>also with stepping in the debugger - report upcoming) and is probably<BR>not 100 % stable for all purposes that the non-Cog VMs
were well<BR>suited for.<BR><BR>To summarise, while Cog is the "latest and greatest", as you put it,<BR>it should be considered beta. The stable Squeak release is 4.1 plus<BR>the latest VM, and in my actually not so humble opinion it is<BR>completely sufficient to provide pre-built releases for *that*.<BR><BR>Perhaps I misunderstood you here and there: apologies for that, then.<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>Michael<BR><BR>On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Squeak List <<A href="mailto:squeaklist@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:squeaklist@yahoo.com">squeaklist@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> First, MANY thanks to everyone for bringing Cog to Squeak :)<BR>><BR>> yet, i go to:<BR>> "og, a Squeak JIT VM with 2x-10x Speedup Released<BR>> Eliot Miranda announced that Teleplace released under a MIT license his work on a long awaited and anticipated new JIT virtual engine for Squeak and friends called Cog, with 2x-10x
improvement in performance. It is available on our ftp site."<BR>><BR>> and find no way to get Cog working at all with Trunk... it seems like update options were released some time ago for 4.1, when folks were having similar problems - but i cannot get cog to accept any update preferences...<BR>><BR>> what happened to the COMPLETELY PRE-BUILT releases????<BR>><BR>> i think this is what confuses/infuriates some folks: expectation is to click a link and download the COMPLETE latest and greatest: here you have cog and functioning options INCLUDED in what you download from <A href="http://squeak.org/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>squeak.org</A>, that allow you to choose from whatever update stream you choose... at least Trunk...<BR>><BR>> windows vista 32 bit here.<BR>><BR>> i cannot find how to make cog update from TRUNK: the BUTTONS do not work in the preferences... and i am amazed that i should have to
look ANYWHERE beyond <A href="http://squeak.org/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>SQUEAK.ORG</A> to waste time... the program works (except the updating via TRUNK) - did i miss the message that explains how to fix this (possibly/probably) - and if/since i did miss that clearly spelled out message, why on earth is it not spelled out clearly on <A href="http://squeak.org/?" rel=nofollow target=_blank>squeak.org?</A>?? or did i miss it there also?<BR>><BR>> otherwise, it all is very interesting :)<BR>><BR>> and it seems that is working very well (cog) for some folks.<BR>><BR>> i would just like to ask someone to CLEARLY EXPLAIN how to get the new Cog system working in Windows: so that i can use Trunk updates.<BR>><BR>> sorry, but it just seems like when i download the Cog from <A href="http://squeak.org/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>squeak.org</A>, it should not have problems connecting to Trunk... and that updating from Trunk should
be a built in option in preferences... to me at least... something that you could turn off if you were not interested....<BR>><BR>> thanx all,<BR>><BR>> ken<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></div><br>
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