I think we're already there in trunk, but I've been busy lately with a job hunt, and presently haven't got a working VM to check. I think the thing to do is get a recent trunk image, update it, and look at what's in the package "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); line-height: 19px; white-space: pre; ">Configurations"</span><br>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Rob Withers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:reefedjib@yahoo.com">reefedjib@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">This works for me. As long as Crypto is
visible and easily loadable I think the requirements are met. Any idea
when this "community supported packages" will become a reality?</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Cheers,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Rob</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:casey.obrien.r@gmail.com
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] Cryptography in the main
image and Plugins build for theVMs</div></div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<div><br></div>There is a plan that solves this problem using Monticello
configurations. We're calling them community supported packages. More info here:
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<div><a href="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general/148414" target="_blank">http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general/148414</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general/148414" target="_blank"></a>Basically,
you can keep your bits shipping as automatically loadable from Squeak where
version and dependency information is preserved. It's pretty sweet:)<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Rob Withers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:reefedjib@yahoo.com" target="_blank">reefedjib@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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"Steve Wart" <<a href="mailto:steve@wart.ca" target="_blank">steve@wart.ca</a>><br>Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:50
PM<br>To: "Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion" <<a href="mailto:vm-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank">vm-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>><br>Cc: "Squeak Crypto"
<<a href="mailto:cryptography@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank">cryptography@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>>; "Squeak Dev"
<<a href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target="_blank">squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>><br>Subject: Re:
[Vm-dev] Cryptography in the main image and Plugins build for theVMs
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<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br>Given that cryptography still faces export
restrictions, would this<br>cause problems for OSS distributions that want
to include Squeak?<br><br></blockquote><br></div>I am not familiar with which
pieces of Cryptography are export restricted and which are not.
According to the Java SDK Crypto docs (<a href="http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17476_01/javase/1.4.2/docs/guide/security/CryptoSpec.html#Architecture" target="_blank">http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17476_01/javase/1.4.2/docs/guide/security/CryptoSpec.html#Architecture</a>)
DSA, MD5 and SHA-1 are at least distributable. This obviously reduces
the attractiveness of including Crypto in the image, were we to have to split
the package into exportable and non-exportable packages.
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<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Also I'm not sure that people who want to minimize their
image size<br>would benefit. Why can't Cryptography be easily loaded by
people who<br>need it?<br></blockquote><br></div>People may not know where it
resides. It is not a part of the trunk. It is in a SqueakSource
repository.<br><br>Thanks,<br><font color="#888888">Rob</font>
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<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br>Steve<br><br>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Rob
Withers <<a href="mailto:reefedjib@yahoo.com" target="_blank">reefedjib@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br>Hi all,<br><br>I would like to propose that
Cryptography be included as part of the image,<br>by default. As it
stands now it is in the Cryptography repository, which<br>most don't seem
to know about or there are one-off copies that are
developed<br>separately. David Shaffer has been stewarding a
reintegration of these<br>forks and ensuring the tests pass.
Everyone should be able to take<br>advantage of the algorithms
provided by the Cryptography package.<br><br>Along the same lines, it
would be a great help for the vm providers to<br>include the
CryptographyPlugins when they build a new vm. I believe there<br>are
3 plugins and they really ought to be build internally, since they
are<br>unchanging.<br><br>I would like to hear what others think of the
possibility of making this<br>change.<br><br>Thank
you,<br>Rob<br><br><br><br></blockquote></blockquote><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Casey Ransberger<br></div>
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