<p>Integration of OCompletion would not need to be done as a fork. It could mean to have it preloaded in a trunk image and maintain that future versions still work.</p><p>I don't think that having something like OCompletion per default in trunk will be like having "all bells and whistles". It's something basic like ... well ... shout, which we have forked into trunk.</p>
<p>In general I don't think trunk means to keep it archaic and to blister yourself in using it. <br></p><p>Alex<br></p><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/5 Frank Shearar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frank.shearar@angband.za.org">frank.shearar@angband.za.org</a>></span><br>
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Since Squeak presents itself to the newcomer as an integrated development<br>
environment, it should act that way, too, imho. Having a good one-click,<br>
out-of-the-box experience is crucial if we want new people to come and<br>
stick to Squeak<br>
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+1. For attracting new Squeakers, I agree that it's crucial to have all the<br>
dev tools expected by the market. Leave the tweaking to the experts e.g.<br>
"Bare-bones the system" instead of "extend the system" for bread and butter<br>
IDE features.<br>
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otherwise they'll simply go on and use Pharo.<br>
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Or drop Smalltalk altogether! Until a year ago, I thought Smalltalk was a<br>
strange dead language. Lacking features that are basic in other<br>
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Yes, but that's a distribution problem. Have a one-click with all the vital bells and whistles, great. That's not trunk though.<br>
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So OCompletion should stay out of trunk _because_ it's nicely packaged, and when we say "OK kids, Squeak 4.2's here" we also say "...and here's the one-click with some nice extra add-ons you can't do without"<br>
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