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Cuis is a good partial solution. So is Craig Latta's Spoon.<br>
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Better will be developing a GOOD IPC strategy so that we can spawn
dedicated images from Cuis that contain only the code necessary to
run a task in its own process, using Spoon to cull the unneeded
classes.<br>
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L.<br>
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On 9/7/11 9:52 AM, Overcomer Man wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">I suggest a new fork or possibly a new
orientation for the next Squeak release:
<div>Adopt Cuis as the core image and focus on killer
applications to attract new Smalltalk users.</div>
<div>Thousands of downloads are recorded on CNet for simple apps
like a voice recorder.</div>
<div>They could all be using and learning Smalltalk. Same for
many other applications. </div>
<div>That would help make Smalltalk popular again.</div>
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<div>Recently I found Squeak / Cuis contains many Sound classes.
So I wrote up an email suggesting it to a community college
teacher friend who had asked for a sound recorder. Imagine
my embarrassment when I found the files Squeak supports
doesn't include .mp3. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Squeak has so much unfinished half starts at programs, why
not adopt Juan's work to flush the unnecessary, then get
started on building a serious applications team to build truly
useful free code. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Another example, Roxio is a million dollar software company
making a video recorder app. which is not as good as an
ordinary VCR and not supported (they have a staff but try
getting any real help). Squeak could be capturing a slice of
that market and enticing users to learn Smalltalk! And source
code can substitute for most support. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Another example, Solid Works is a 3D object drafting
program that is simple and gets many thousands of users away
from AutoDesk. Can Smalltalk deliver most or all of that
function with a FFI to openGL and some programming?
Certianly!</div>
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<div>Finally, the one complaint I've heard on the job about
Smalltalk is it's slow. I recently added several thousand
classes and find simply clicking on the class in a browser is
now slow to respond. When end-users, not programmers, can
type at 80 words a minute and more in a C app. or they can be
limited to 30 wpm or less in a Smalltalk app. they demand C.
The new VM was a good improvement, now try to solve the speed
issues in the image.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Kirk Fraser</div>
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