<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Thank you . I have dowloaded Athens and NB and NBOpengl and will study all of them. I also downloaded the video and I am watching it. If I have any questions I will come back with them. </span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Igor Stasenko [via Smalltalk] <ml-node+s1294792n4644627h10@n4.nabble.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 20 August 2012, 14:04<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Why FFI is not
included with latest squeak ?<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1559737058">
There is a more recent video, a presentation which i gave at ESUG:
<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=a3paB9-iaCY">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=a3paB9-iaCY</a><br><br>and for examples, i forgot to mention Athens..
<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.squeaksource.com/Athens">http://www.squeaksource.com/Athens</a><br>which is a vector graphics engine we developing.
<br>You load
<br>ConfigurationOfAthens which is metacello configuration
<br>and then just invoke
<br>ConfigurationOfAthens loadVersion: '1.2'
<br>which is latest available today.
<br>It will automatically load nativeboost (so, you don't have to install
<br>it by yourself)
<br>and you can browse the code in Athens-Cairo package to see how i using
<br>NB to bind with Cairo graphics library.. for example look at
<br>AthensCairoCanvas class, like:
<br><br>rectangleX: x y: y width: aWidth height: aHeight
<br> <primitive: #primitiveNativeCall module: #NativeBoostPlugin>
<br>
<br> ^ self nbCall: #(void cairo_rectangle (self,
<br> double x, double y,
<br> double aWidth, double aHeight) )
<br><br><br>On 20 August 2012 11:12, dimitris chloupis <<a rel="nofollow" href="">[hidden email]</a>> wrote:
<div class="yiv1559737058shrinkable-quote"><br>> WOW I only left for a day and the mailing list just exploded.
<br>>
<br>> First I thank you all for your help and yes I am a big fan of Starship
<br>> Troopers too, its sad that this greaty movie never got the sequel it
<br>> deserved and still is so misunderstood.. The truth is that Native boost is
<br>> very tempting for that precise reason, it allows you to stay in smalltalk
<br>> and do your magic and never leave the comforts of the smalltalk debugger but
<br>> is also tool that overall documentation is not much. Still I guess I can
<br>> alway ask Igor and he can answer back and even contribute myself in
<br>> documenting things. Whats funny is that if you ask here at mailing list you
<br>> get a lot of useful answer but those answers dont make it back to
<br>> documentaion. People are bored making documentation but cant resist
<br>> answering in malling list with often extremely detailed helpful info as
<br>> Davind's pst which I think should be included with Squeaks onboard
<br>> documentation.
<br>>
<br>> Saying that taking into considerina how non popular Squeak and Pharo are ,
<br>> documentation is not that bad actually.
<br>>
<br>> On my project goals Ephestos, is to take advantage of pure object orientated
<br>> approach of smalltalk nature to provide a framework of attaching flexible
<br>> documentation to smalltalk objects so the user can ask a method or class or
<br>> any object "help" (ie UIManager help . UIManager default ChooseDirectory
<br>> help. etc)
<br>>
<br>> Anyway after Igor's explanation I am certainly more inclined to use
<br>> Nativeboost but will certainly would like to test Vm plugin creation. I
<br>> certainly hope Nativeboost gets included with both Squeak and Pharo. If its
<br>> really stable and reliable as Igor is claiming then I most certainly would
<br>> like to help documenting it in time when I get more experience with it.
<br>>
<br>> I did find great introduction to Nativeboost this presentation ->
<br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd6mz6F167s">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd6mz6F167s</a> which is what introduced me to
<br>> nativeboost.
<br>>
<br>>
<br>>
</div><br><br><br>--
<br>Best regards,
<br>Igor Stasenko.
<br><br>
<br>
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