I believe that Lively was switched to canvas.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:03 AM, David Corking <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@dcorking.com" target="_blank">lists@dcorking.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think for music (muO) Stephane is better off with Squeak or Pharo<br>
implementations of Scratch, as Bert suggested. Nevertheless, Hannes<br>
Hirzel wrote a very interesting post:<br>
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> What about snap (JavaScript implementation)?<br>
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> <a href="http://chirp.scratchr.org/dl/experimental/JsMorphic/snap.html" target="_blank">http://chirp.scratchr.org/dl/experimental/JsMorphic/snap.html</a><br>
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> It should run on tablets.<br>
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</div>SNAP! is version 4 of BYOB, so it will have the fun computer-sciency<br>
bits that BYOB added to Scratch, and which should give Scratch a<br>
higher ceiling.<br>
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You should also find Jens Moenig's two pre-release articles interesting:<br>
<a href="http://www.chirp.scratchr.org/blog/?p=39" target="_blank">http://www.chirp.scratchr.org/blog/?p=39</a> ("Enjoy it on your iPad!")<br>
<a href="http://www.chirp.scratchr.org/blog/?p=34" target="_blank">http://www.chirp.scratchr.org/blog/?p=34</a><br>
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Markus Gaelli wrote:<br>
>> Unfortunately we don't have Morphic for vectors -- do we?<br>
>> Might be a killer app on android tablets and other platforms which don't<br>
>> allow flash but would allow sharing of projects.<br>
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</div>I might be wrong, but I think Dan Ingalls's Lively Kernel research is<br>
Morphic for vectors (specifically SVG)<br>
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<a href="http://www.lively-kernel.org/" target="_blank">http://www.lively-kernel.org/</a><br>
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(The Google Play store has the Adobe Air client for ARMv7 upwards. But<br>
HTML5 is a lot less hassle for users. Didn't Adobe announce an<br>
end-of-life plan for its Flash/Shockwave/Air clients in favour of<br>
HTML5?)<br>
<br>
In my opinion, Scratch, as a bitmap app, already has potential to be a<br>
killer app on tablets and smartphones.<br>
<br>
Yet if someone builds collaborative toys and games around a vector and<br>
touch-based Morphic, I think they will be embarking on a rewarding<br>
project.<br>
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On the same topic, we need great ideas for a touch user experience for<br>
Morphic Etoys over at Squeakland. It is pretty urgent as the<br>
single-touch OLPC tablet is out soon, and those lovely scripting tiles<br>
need fine motor control, tiny fingers, a two-button mouse and a<br>
keyboard.<br>
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<a href="http://squeakland.org/discuss/squeakland/" target="_blank">http://squeakland.org/discuss/squeakland/</a><br>
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Have fun! David<br>
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