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<font face="Georgia">This is not exactly the answer to your
question, but I prefer the second (seaside3.st). I have some
seaside images that I do stuff in from time to time, the most
recent being a 4.3 image. I was a bit amused by recent indications
on this list that seaside was not loading in the latest Squeak and
thought, there's another reason to stay with what works. If,
however, the urge to get Seaside on the very latest Squeak
overcame me, I would much prefer trying to debug the second rather
than the first.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Bob<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/25/13 8:56 AM, Tobias Pape wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Am 25.02.2013 um 14:26 schrieb radoslav hodnicak <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rh@4096.sk"><rh@4096.sk></a>:
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<pre wrap="">On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Tobias Pape <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Das.Linux@gmx.de"><Das.Linux@gmx.de></a> wrote:
PS: Off-topic but IMHO important. I started replying to this email
7:30 AM and got stuck at the installation instructions and now
I send this mail at 1 PM;
I, sadly, have to conclude: Installing a proper development
image for Seaside on Squeak is still a mess.
I was the one who provided the Squeak Seaside image for Squeak 4.3
but currently I see myself completely unable to set up Seaside for
Squeak 4.4.
Just some random notes to relieve me:
• Installing Seaside need Metacello.
• Then somehow trying to install Seaside: do it wrong and Boom: Zinc is missing
and completely unavailable for Squeak
• Bootstrapping metacello needs Omnibrowser basics
• The Omnibrowser verison for Squeak as in the ConfigurationOfOmnibrowser is
completely broken. Remember the not working buttons? still there.
• First installing OmniBrowser via Coiln’s script and then loading anything via
Metacello that depends on OB: boom
• First installing Omnibrowser via Metacello, then loading via Colin’s script:
no boom, but conflicting Classes. need to remove OB-Morphic manually...
• at _that_ point I gave up.
I haven't tried this recently but Lukas' scripts for building images at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/renggli/builder/tree/master/scripts">https://github.com/renggli/builder/tree/master/scripts</a> don't use Metacello and I have used this method to load Seaside in the past (replacing Gofer calls with Installer).
rado
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Well, there is
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/renggli/builder/blob/master/scripts/seaside3-metacello.st">https://github.com/renggli/builder/blob/master/scripts/seaside3-metacello.st</a>
which explicitely _does_ use Metacello and
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/renggli/builder/blob/master/scripts/seaside3.st">https://github.com/renggli/builder/blob/master/scripts/seaside3.st</a>
which explicitely _does not_ use Metacello.
If you were an “image distributor”, ie, someone who hands images to other developers,
which one would you take? Which resulting image is easier to update? Which script is easier
to maintain? (Sorry the many questions, not meant to be offensive :) )
Best
-Tobias
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