<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I understand how this can be frustrating for Frank :(<br>His efforts for having the CI server working could supposedly be rewarded by correction of errors and regressions soon after their introduction...<br>
</div>Unfortunately, it's precisely the time chosen by Bert and Colin for introducing longer term work in progress in trunk.<br></div>We are less patient than we used to be :)<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/10 Bert Freudenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" target="_blank">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 10.04.2013, at 05:45, Frank Shearar <<a href="mailto:frank.shearar@gmail.com">frank.shearar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 10 April 2013 13:42, Frank Shearar <<a href="mailto:frank.shearar@gmail.com">frank.shearar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On 11 March 2013 00:11, <<a href="mailto:commits@source.squeak.org">commits@source.squeak.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Bert Freudenberg uploaded a new version of EToys to project The Trunk:<br>
>>> <a href="http://source.squeak.org/trunk/EToys-bf.94.mcz" target="_blank">http://source.squeak.org/trunk/EToys-bf.94.mcz</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> ==================== Summary ====================<br>
>>><br>
>>> Name: EToys-bf.94<br>
>>> Author: bf<br>
>>> Time: 11 March 2013, 1:11:38.945 am<br>
>>> UUID: 4abe21cf-5215-40c9-8371-07b6a9e09b81<br>
>>> Ancestors: EToys-fbs.93<br>
>>><br>
>>> Bring in some classes and methods from the Etoys image so that project loading gives a meaningful error, not just 'unknown class'. See ReleaseBuilderSqueakland>>buildInitialScreen<br>
>>><br>
>>> =============== Diff against EToys-fbs.93 ===============<br>
>><br>
>> This has several missing classes, I just discovered: SExpElement,<br>
>> EToyExpressionTransformer2 and SugarPropertiesNotification.<br>
>><br>
>> I only just noticed now because<br>
>> Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testUndeclared often fails for spurious<br>
>> reasons (discussed at length elsewhere).<br>
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> I hit "send" too soon. It bothers me that Bert didn't get told that he<br>
> was about to add missing class definitions. I understand that they<br>
> weren't missing in his image, but it'd be really nice if something<br>
> somewhere could have told Bert "you've forgotten some classes". The<br>
> current "commit and see what CI says" mechanism is suboptimal.<br>
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</div></div>They're not in my image either. The mechanism to inform me is the undeclared warning that gets logged to the transcript. And I ignored it because this is work in progress.<br>
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