<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>On 2013-09-11, at 18:33, Nikolay Suslov <<a href="mailto:nsuslovi@gmail.com">nsuslovi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Bert,<div><br><div>what do you think about having a repository for experimental stuff like Worlds, OMeta at <a href="http://source.squeak.org/">source.squeak.org</a>, bringing them closer to Squeak community?</div>
<div>The latest version of Worlds, refereed in the VPRI's report (<a href="http://tinlizzie.org/updates/exploratory/packages/Worlds-ael.67.mcz">http://tinlizzie.org/updates/exploratory/packages/Worlds-ael.67.mcz</a>) is loaded fine to Squeak 4.4, but the changes introduced in Squeak 4.5 (Compiler,Parser,Encoder) break that compatibility. So, I had to correct little things and upload it to mine repository.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Nikolay </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>IMHO, just because something was developed at VPRI does not make it more special than other projects. It's great if someone takes such a project and maintains it and improves it, but the best place to put it would be in an open repository, not a <a href="http://squeak.org">squeak.org</a> one.</div><div><br></div><div>That said, we did discuss the idea of "community-maintained" packages before which should live near to squeak trunk but would not be preloaded in a full release image. Rather, they would ship with a release as separate files, be tested by the build server, etc. These are the only kind of packages I think should live on <a href="http://source.squeak.org">source.squeak.org</a> itself. And those may include packages originated at VPRI, but mainly many others.</div><div><br></div><div>However, I think no serious work has been done yet in that direction.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; ">- Bert -</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><br></span></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Bert Freudenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" target="_blank">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="h5">On 2013-09-11, at 14:25, Frank Shearar <<a href="mailto:frank.shearar@gmail.com">frank.shearar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 11 September 2013 12:00, Frank Shearar <<a href="mailto:frank.shearar@gmail.com">frank.shearar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On 10 September 2013 23:46, Nikolay Suslov <<a href="mailto:nsuslovi@gmail.com">nsuslovi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Hello,<br>
>>><br>
>>> For those who is interested in Worlds. so gracefully described in VPRI's<br>
>>> report "Experimenting with worlds" by Aran Lunzer and Yoshiki Ohshima, I<br>
>>> have prepared a version of the Worlds package, that is loadable into the<br>
>>> current Squeak 4.5 image<br>
>>> (<a href="http://sdk.krestianstvo.org/sdk/squeak45/Worlds-sn.73.mcz" target="_blank">http://sdk.krestianstvo.org/sdk/squeak45/Worlds-sn.73.mcz</a>).<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks very much, Nikolay!<br>
>><br>
>> (For the installer, be aware that Worlds changes some core bits, like<br>
>> adding instance variables to Process. You will see a debugger pop up<br>
>> asking you if you wish to proceed.)<br>
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> I see references to a WorldPlugin (IdentityDictionary >><br>
> #primTestAelAt:ifNotFound: for instance). Where would we find this?<br>
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</div></div><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=WorldsPlugin+mcz" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?q=WorldsPlugin+mcz</a><br>
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