<div dir="ltr">It (MD) has a spreadsheet style view right? That alone seems to suggest that it's worth supporting in my view if we have anyone around to do it... the spreadsheet is the most broadly recognizable and intuitive programming metaphor I've seen (lots of people who use them don't even realize they're programming, etc.)<div>
<br></div><div style>FWIW, when I tried checking it out, it either didn't work in Squeak or I was missing something about how to use it.</div><div style><br></div><div style>WRT Maui: the ST-80 inspector is nice, but I think there's a lot more it could do. Maui is worth looking at, whether we integrate parts of it, or pillage it for its excellent ideas. One of the things on my longer term list is to bring something like Maui to Cuis, so I might be compelled to contribute here once I've got how-I'm-paying-rent nailed down.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM, tim Rowledge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank">tim@rowledge.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
So around a month ago I reported problems when trying to load the MorphicDesigner<br>
(<a href="https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects/wiki/designer" target="_blank">https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects/wiki/designer</a>) project. I tried it again this morning and aside from the rather long and windy process of installing metacello and then morphicdesigner it all went well.<br>
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MD is quite interesting. It's a kinda-traditional UI builder, in contrast to Chris Muller's 'Maui' project for example, but has some nice touches. There are quite a few extra classes loaded as part of the install and I have no idea right now if they're actually essential or not - is an animation framework really required for such a tool? It's quite a nice framework though…<br>
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I wish I had time to really dig into both this and Maui, but since I don't I want to wave the flag a bit to see if someone else can be Tom Sawyered into evaluating them. Perhaps there are synergies that might encourage us to use a bit of both? Should we work towards making sure such a tool is fully supported as a standard item for Squeak?<br>
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