<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style='font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;'>David,<br><br>Thank you. I have joined that list and will continue the conversation there.<br><br>Cordially,<br><br>t.<br><div id="1"><br>---- On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 08:12:51 -0800 <b>David T. Lewis<lewis@mail.msen.com></b> wrote ---- <br></div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #0000FF; padding-left: 6px; margin:0 0 0 5px">On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 07:29:42AM -0800, gettimothy wrote: <br>> Eliot <br>> <br>> First, if these discussion is inappropriate for squeak-dev, I have subscribed to squeak-vm-beginners and we can move it there or elsewhere if I am creating too much noise here. <br>> <br> <br>Hi Timothy, <br> <br>The vm-dev list is here: <br> <br> <a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vm-dev" target="_blank">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vm-dev</a> <br> <br>It is not a beginner's list, and your discussion would be welcome there. Either <br>way, you are not creating "noise" and it is great to see you getting involved. <br> <br> <br>> In working the steps at <a href="http://www.mirandabanda.org/cogblog/build-image/" target="_blank">http://www.mirandabanda.org/cogblog/build-image/</a> and I have found that running all the tests for the Alien install on the SqueakVM that comes with the all-in-one app fails all but one of its tests. (primitives fail) <br>> <br>> If I start the image using the CogVM then all the tests pass. <br>> <br>> So, is it correct to say that building a Cog Development Image on Squeak4.4 or greater depends on a pre-built CogVM from <a href="http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/" target="_blank">http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/</a> ? <br>> <br>> I am assuming yes, but I want to verify with you before I document what I am doing <br>> <br> <br>It is a good idea to use a VM from mirandaband.org, because different VMs may have <br>different runtime behaviour, and using a runtime environment that matches Eliot's <br>will prevent confusion. <br> <br>Strictly speaking, you can build a Cog VM using pretty much any VM that works <br>with your Squeak4.4 image. So no it is not necessary to use a specific pre-built <br>image, but it is a very good idea to do so, especially during the time when you <br>are first learning how to do VM building. <br> <br>I think Eliot will give you a similar answer, so hopefully he won't mind me stepping <br>in to answer some of your questions. <br> <br>Dave <br> <br>> thx. <br>> <br>> t <br>> <br> <br> <br></blockquote><br></div></body></html>