<div dir="ltr">Hi Tim,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your reply.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014/1/17 tim Rowledge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tim@rowledge.org" target="_blank">tim@rowledge.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Jannik,<br>
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On 16-01-2014, at 1:28 AM, jannik.laval <<a href="mailto:jannik.laval@gmail.com">jannik.laval@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> It can be interesting to merge our efforts.<br>
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</div>There’s a big problem with merging much, which is that you have (very reasonably) decided to make a version of BYOB, with all the neat extensions that brings in. I need to make an *exact* Scratch port in order to support the many (actually it seems likely about a million, which is scary) users of current Scratch 1.4 on the Pi. It has to *be* Scratch, not something else.<br>
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Later, if time and finances permit (start thinking of ways to lobby Eben Upton to keep supporting me!) I can work on extensions to Scratch like BYOB stuff, Enchanting, S4A etc.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I understand your point, and that was mine at the beginning of the project.</div>
<div>Phratch v1 is completely compatible with Scratch 1.4. You can try it there: <a href="https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Phratch/">https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Phratch/</a></div><div><br></div><div>
Now, you are right, Phratch in its second version is less compatible. That is just a current state because I need to clean up some things.</div><div><br></div><div>If I understand, your future work will be the same as I did or I am doing (integrating BYOB, Enchanting, S4A...).</div>
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> I am developing Phratch (<a href="http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/" target="_blank">http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/</a>), and it begin to be really stable.<br>
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</div>I run your system fairly often for comparison purposes. Some very clever work-arounds to the changes from ancient-Morphic to modern Pharo-morphic, and often they help me spot what I need to do for my work.<br>
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> I would like to see it on top of raspberry pi.<br>
> I hope we can do that together.<br>
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</div>I’m pretty sure there are some parts we will be able to share; the techniques for speeding up the tile dragging and script execution ought to be transferrable eventually. The Pi vm should run your image. SimpleSi’s python sensor-driver code should work, allowing you access to PiFace & Gertduino etc.<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am not sure why we would share instead of working together on the same platform. You have knowledge that I don't have and I did a work that you are redoing.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Another question that I asked to me when beginning Phratch: why not just using Scratch2.0 ? It is compatible with Scratch1.4.</div><div><br></div><div>Please, consider that I would be happy to merge our efforts :)</div>
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<p>~~Jannik Laval~~<br>École des Mines de Douai<br>Enseignant-chercheur<br><a href="http://www.jannik-laval.eu" target="_blank">http://www.jannik-laval.eu</a><br><a href="http://car.mines-douai.fr/" target="_blank">http://car.mines-douai.fr/</a></p>
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