<div dir="ltr">Hi Bert,<div><br></div><div> great news that there's proper support for focus in Morphic. I think we at Cadence will want to port the code to our application quite quickly. How can I find out what the changes are so as to isolate them and port them to our Newspeak/Newsqueak fork?</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Bert Freudenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" target="_blank">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 23.01.2014, at 05:27, Chris Muller <<a href="mailto:ma.chris.m@gmail.com">ma.chris.m@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Leaving this disabled more closely matches Windows, but it requires<br>
> clicking wherever you want to put keyboard focus. But clicking for<br>
> focus is invokes whatever selection where you clicked (even though you<br>
> only want to gain keyboard focus on the list) which could cause even a<br>
> modal pop-up if the text pane was dirty. Clumsy!<br>
><br>
> With the option to Enable this setting, merely pointing provides<br>
> immediate keyboard control to the widget under the hand, without<br>
> needing to click. That is real "point-and-click", because you point,<br>
> then you can "click" with any key not just on the mouse, but also the<br>
> keyboard, to manipulate the UI. Control is magnified under two<br>
> dimensions of input.<br>
><br>
> We all in this community set what we want for all preferences. Many<br>
> of the default settings specified in ReleaseBuilder are the opposite<br>
> of my personal settings, but the best choice for the defaults. This<br>
> is about the _default_ for Squeak, not our personal preference.<br>
><br>
> I think we've reached a time of such technical-diversity that don't we<br>
> need to care as much about emulating Windows XP. Squeak can do<br>
> better, and I think it should.<br>
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It's not about emulating Windows XP, but click-to-focus simply won, on any platform. There are just a couple of X window managers that have point-to-focus. If you still want that, change the preference. The default should be what is most commonly used.<br>
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(We did change this a couple years back. It was for the better. Now your text input does not stop anymore if you knock the mouse pointer out of the way.)<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>best,<div>Eliot</div>
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