<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Casey Ransberger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:casey.obrien.r@gmail.com" target="_blank">casey.obrien.r@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Frank: no, I think what Bert is saying is if you send #license to Smalltalk, you get the MIT license back as a byte string. We talked about this during the 4.0 effort. I also put it at the top of the .sources file as a sort of comment in the chunk format, which should be visible in at least that particular artifact (we did this because it was what made the SFC folks happy about taking us on at the time. By "we" I mean I did it, at the board's behest.)</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">I don't want to spark a debate but would it perhaps be good for Smalltalk licence to begin with "</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(73,73,73);font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">The MIT License (MIT)</span><span class="Apple-style-span">"? Otherwise it is implicit.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Anyway, Chris M: I appreciate your point of view. Given that a mistake about something like this could prove (at best) a lot of work for someone to have to rip out some code (which may have grown dependencies) and (at worst) potential "Imperial entanglements," I hope folks don't mind too much my somewhat nannying position on the matter, or that I spoke up about it.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's just be *very* careful. If I had my druthers, (I'd know what druthers were, what the hell are druthers again?) I'd move the #license selector and associated method to Object. I'd like to use this system in a business someday, and if we screw the licensing up, *I'm* going to inevitably have to fix it myself. So I'll retract my 'Period,' but cautiously. Craig's right, I'm not a judge.</div><div><br></div><div>The good news is, everyone we have with a commit bit has the best intentions, and Monticello gives us a paper trail about who submitted what changes and thus a line of inquiry if there are ever questions about the provenance of a piece of code. I hope?</div><div><br></div><div>I'm certainly not here to spread fear, uncertainty, or doubt. Just to advise caution with the best of intentions.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Casey</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Frank Shearar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frank.shearar@gmail.com" target="_blank">frank.shearar@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>On 26 September 2014 15:08, Bert Freudenberg <<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" target="_blank">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 26.09.2014, at 16:05, Frank Shearar <<a href="mailto:frank.shearar@gmail.com" target="_blank">frank.shearar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On 26 September 2014 14:15, Bert Freudenberg <<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" target="_blank">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> On 24.09.2014, at 15:50, Trygve Reenskaug <<a href="mailto:trygver@ifi.uio.no" target="_blank">trygver@ifi.uio.no</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>>> I've googled "MIT Licence". There appears to be several and the most important one should probably be called something else?<br>
>>>> So what, precisely, is "the MIT licence" that I am bound by when I make a Squeak contribution?<br>
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>>> Smalltalk license<br>
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>> Specifically, ...<br>
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> I specifically meant you should print "Smalltalk licence".<br>
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</div></div>Then we really ought to change <a href="http://source.squeak.org/trunk" target="_blank">source.squeak.org/trunk</a> which<br>
specifically says "MIT", and the licence I pasted.<br>
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frank<br>
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> - Bert -<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>best,<div>Eliot</div>
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