<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-02-25 21:52 GMT+01:00 Chris Muller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asqueaker@gmail.com" target="_blank">asqueaker@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">> Morphic-cmm.760 still ignores what the user typed. It *explicitly* ignores it. If I have "bar)))))" and want to type another ")" after the "r", it does not let me. And that's not Right™ :)<br>
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</span>Anytime you have multiple consecutive closers of the same type, it<br>
doesn't matter whether you add it to the front or the end. Just keep<br>
typing ) until you get there and it'll start adding.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Oh yes it does matter.<br>If I click to position the cursor and type some character, then yes i expect some character to be inserted where I clicked.<br>If I want to do something special, then I prefer to tell it with some special key combination (alt ctrl cmd esc whatever...).<br></div><div><br>Every other behaviour is a surprising hurdle suddenly raising in my way.<br>It forces my mind to shift focus on this damn editor than cannot do the most simple thing.<br>Having to concentrate to guess how to make it understand what I want instead of focusing on my own problem, is the exact definition for disruptive.<br></div><div>That just mean that:<br>- the editor is restricted to a specific way of doing things instead of being versatile,<br>- it's to the user to do things like the editor want them to be done, rather than the contrary.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Bert, the way this went down was: 1) you complained with only<br>
emotion, 2) I asked for concrete clarification, 3) you clarified, 4) I<br>
went and (tried to) fix to your specification, 5) you complain about a<br>
new (non)problem.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>I think this is unfair here.<br></div><div>I feel this is a problem just like Bert think it's a problem.<br><br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
I'm trying to help here, but what is not helpful is to block any and<br>
all progress with these complaints about how these non-real-world<br>
use-cases aren't solved, and then to top it off, offering no guidance<br>
about what it SHOULD do.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>The real world use case is to let the most simple behaviour just work.<br><br>An editor that is kindly proposing an automatic completion is what I would expect.<br>If it has a good matching ratio I'll eventually keep it up, otherwise it will be another distraction that I prefer to switch off.<br><br>But an editor that is interpreting my input in a way that doesn't match my will is the best candidate for trash bin.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I think Bert gave example of behaviour in a form of a link. Maybe that is not detailed enough, but it's a guidance already.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
It's clear this is more about you wanting to complicate the<br>
implementation with a stack. If you have time for that go for it. I<br>
won't do it because when I analyze the use-cases, it's clear that<br>
implementation is way overkill. Not worth the effort nor the extra<br>
complexity.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>A program that does not fullfil my expectations just for the sake of being simple to implement is not of high value.<br>What matters more than implementation is a versatile and unsurprising behavior of the editor.<br><br>That's why a majority of us simply prefer no auto-completion at all rather than a broken one.<br></div><div>It can be a gadget to try in the Preferences if we're in the mood to, but not the default behavior.<br></div><br><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Just be sure to please start it out in the Inbox first so I can offer<br>
my own critique..<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, I feel sorry to write such mail that may seem much more violent than it needs too.<br></div><div>I'd prefer to be more positive and helpful, but Chris, you have to understand our griefs: we don't want compromise or workaround,<br></div><div>We want an editor that just works.<br><br></div><div>You are making progress and yet improving the gadget, but the minimum features to make it acceptable is not yet there.<br></div><div>Please keep on :)<br></div></div><br><br></div></div>