<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body >Hi,<div>I voted for sort preferece I have to enable because i have a visual memory and resorting forces me to search. For new code it doesn't matter but once I used a (any) order I must not change it.</div><div><br></div><div>One vote explained :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Herbert (phone)</div><br><br><div>-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------</div><div>Von: "David T. Lewis" <lewis@mail.msen.com> </div><div>Datum:28.02.2015 20:26 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>An: ma.chris.m@gmail.com,The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org> </div><div>Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] community decision making (was: The Trunk:
Tools-mt.534.mcz) </div><div><br></div>On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:48:14PM -0600, Chris Muller wrote:<br>> > Ha! I just voted, and it looks like the number of different opinions<br>> > exactly matches the number of people who have voted so far.<br>> ><br>> > If we could get one more person to vote, then stop the election, we<br>> > would have a decision ;-)<br>> ><br>> > Joking aside, there is something to be said for taking of poll to find<br>> > out what most people want, without regard for who has the loudest opinion.<br>> <br>> It already is without regard to loudness, the loudest voters still<br>> only get one vote.<br>> <br>> > So folks - if you have an opinion on this topic, please follow the link<br>> > above and click on your preference.<br>> <br>> Voting has been a last resort, not a first resort, of decision-making<br>> by this community. When an issue comes up, the people who care enough<br>> about that issue to step up and present the reasons of their position<br>> to their peers, so that a community consensus is arrived at based on<br>> community-input from those with a vested interest.<br>> <br>> By contrast, some external, anonymous poll in which dozens folks who<br>> don't participate much, don't care that much because they started a<br>> Squeak image 3 times in their whole life, -- those folks having as<br>> much pull as everyone else who is more-vested.<br>> <br>> Besides, how can we know such an external poll is even fair? Could<br>> someone vote multiple times from different computers, for example?<br>> Right here, we know any votes are fair, and by the discussions we know<br>> the *reasons* for the outcome..<br><br>Sure, no disagreement. Like most attempts at democratic processes, it<br>probably will not work very well.<br><br>But sometimes we don't actually know how people are using the system,<br>and asking the broader community for input is one way to get information.<br>Think of the poll as a way to ask for input that you can use to make<br>an informed decision. I don't know if it will work, but it seems worth<br>a try, so let's see what happens.<br><br>Dave<br><br><br></body>