<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Stéphane Rollandin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lecteur@zogotounga.net" target="_blank">lecteur@zogotounga.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You say "Nobody cares.<br>
Nobody wants to make Squeak better. The only thing the Squeak community<br>
values is compatibility with Alan's demos, and a version of Etoys that<br>
nobody uses.". None of those statements are true of my efforts or, as<br>
far as I can see, of the significant efforts of the HPI team, or of Tim<br>
Rowledge, if Chris Muller or Levente Uzoni, and probably a lot of other<br>
folks too.<br>
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Squeak is my day to day workhorse. The HOI folks are improving the<br>
environment at great velocity. Squeak 5 is ~40% faster than Squeak 4.6.<br>
Neither of these things are true because no one cares.<br>
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+1<br>
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And if I may add: the feeling that "nobody cares" is a permeating one. Not many people give feedback about what they care about (me included).<br>
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In my case, I definitely have the feeling that nobody cares about anything I ever did in Squeak during about 15 years now, which to day includes: a modular Lisp/Scheme implementation, an extension for functional programming, the upgrading of the Prolog implementation, a vast system for musical composition, and a Space Invader reboot.<br>
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It's fortunate I did not do this for glory and fame :)<br>
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Even more, I still mostly feel like a complete outsider (probably because I build things on top of Squeak instead of working on the core, and possibly also because I work alone and have no position in industry or academia).<br>
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I'm so convinced nobody cares about what I do that stopped long ago sending fixes to bug I encounters: I just fix them in my code. For example, the Saucers game I did has a much faster way of handling morphs, down to modified #addMorph: logic. This could be leveraged, if someone looked at the code. But you cannot command interest.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Are you not interested becoming a core developer so you can contribute directly to trunk ?</div><div>I would guess you are qualified, based on the stuff you have produced...</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Karl</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Well, that's how it is. I have the same experience with Csound people, so I'm pretty sure there is nothing specific to Squeak in these matters. The web is a cold place.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Stef<br>
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