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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/04/2015 10:11 AM, Bert
      Freudenberg wrote:<br>
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          <div class="">On 04.12.2015, at 12:15, Robert Withers &lt;<a
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""> I just
              realized that the squeak version uses ReferenceStream
              while the Pharo version uses Fuel, so the binary
              serializations are different and they won't speak to each
              other.</div>
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        <div>What is this used for?</div>
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    SqueakElib (name change forthcoming!... :) ) uses binary
    serialization to communicate over the wire between vats (an
    execution container). As this framework is to provide the substrate
    for distributed secure objects, there is a critical need to do
    substitutions, such that PassByProxy objects are shareable and
    resolutions can home back to the right pending context (a
    distributed continuation). This requirement for substitutions
    require a robust serialization stream framework, of which
    ReferenceStream in Squeak and Fuel in Pharo meet this need.<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""> Any chance
              that Fuel is ported to Squeak?<br class="">
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        <div>That would be nice, yes. <br>
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    Yes, that would indeed. I hope for it to magically appear!<br>
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    Robert<br>
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        <div>- Bert -<br class="">
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/04/2015 06:11 AM,
                Robert Withers wrote:<br class="">
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                I am unable to import these files into SqueakSource, so
                it may be best done from inside Pharo with Monticello.
                Here are working Crypto and SqueakElib in Pharo, prior
                to SecureSession refactoring and Reed Solomon. I include
                the correct version of LayeredProtocol.<br class="">
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                Regards,<br class="">
                Robert<br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/04/2015 05:47 AM,
                  Robert Withers wrote:<br class="">
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                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/04/2015 05:44 AM,
                    Robert Withers wrote:<br class="">
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                    type="cite" class="">After my password reset on
                    squeaksource, I committed to both Cryptography and
                    SqueakElib, project links below. <br class="">
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                    In the case of Cryptography, I had a version ported
                    to Pharo ... I will organize Pharo ports of both
                    after Reed Solomon is stable, and announce them to
                    the Pharo list. This way both environments can be
                    supported through this one repository. <br class="">
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                    Robert <br class="">
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                    On 12/04/2015 04:35 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: <br
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                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">On 03-12-15 23:06,
                      Robert Withers wrote: <br class="">
                      <blockquote type="cite" class="">Are any of these
                        used by both squeak and Pharo? That would be the
                        right <br class="">
                        move I think. I will ask about getting my
                        password reset for <br class="">
                        squeaksource, since that is where the old code
                        resides. <br class="">
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                      All of them. Mostly timing of project start/high
                      activity and who are <br class="">
                      maintaining it decided on platforms. There was a
                      time when squeaksource was not so stable and then
                      many projects migrated, and I currently hear least
                      about stability issues from ss3, but the load on
                      smalltalkhub is much higher, I assume, as that is
                      used for the pharo ci. <br class="">
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                      In the not so far future Pharo is likely to move
                      to a git based infrastructure, using libgit2.
                      Early adopters are already using it. <br class="">
                      I haven't heard the squeak ideas about that. <br
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                      Stephan <br class="">
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