<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Cross post from where?</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Also, I guess that the subject meant to say "elite". Is that pejorative? If so, what are your negative feelings about "the squeak elite"? This community should be inclusive and welcoming; we're too small to prosper otherwise. So if people are feeling excluded, or marginalized, we should discuss why and see if we can do something about it.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">_,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)</span></div><div><br>On May 7, 2016, at 5:53 AM, <a href="http://reliablerobots.com">ReliableRobots.com</a> <<a href="mailto:reliablerobots@gmail.com">reliablerobots@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>On 5/6/16, Kirk Fraser <<a href="mailto:overcomer.man@gmail.com">overcomer.man@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div>> Byte magazine which published the balloon concept for Smalltalk rising</div><div>> above the ivory tower of a lighthouse guiding the way in a sea of computer</div><div>> languages is out of business. I think it is time for the Squeak balloon to</div><div>> be grounded to connect with the reality of why computer languages exist -</div><div>> to make things easy for application developers. So I propose all Squeak</div><div>> developers stop "improving" Squeak for one year and spend the time writing</div><div>> useful applications in Squeak. That could lead to a basket of new ideas</div><div>> for next year. Maybe make this a regularly scheduled event - a half year</div><div>> for applications and a half year for Squeak?</div><div>></div><div>> The reason motivating this suggestion is on the advice of a Squeak-Dev</div><div>> member, I downloaded the latest all in one and to my chagrin, I found an</div><div>> improvement that made Squeak as worthless as a balloon full of machine gun</div><div>> holes. The Workspace window gets halos with a right mouse click on a</div><div>> standard 2 button laptop mouse. So I'll return to an older Squeak for now.</div><div>></div><div><br></div><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>In which version of Squeak does this happen? 4.6 or 5.0?</div><div><br></div><div>--Hannes</div></div><div><br></div><div>Not just any 5.0 but 15113, the most recent download available on 5/5/16. </div><div><br></div><div>In college I read teachers discovered innovation for the sake of innovation was worthless. It is time Squeak-Dev learned that and only make useful improvements. I can't remember the Halo ever once being useful. Take a class in SolidWorks and do that in Squeak instead of Morphic an other not useful improvements. A fast VM is useful, but sometimes working applications are more useful than a library of stubs.</div></div>
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