<div><div dir="auto">I’m not working so much on tile scripting anymore</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The main issue is scaleability of tile scripting in regards to writing text scripts and programs. I have worked a lot with etoys and while I find the concept appealing but I have yet to write anything project bigger than a dozen scripts. I find it hard to build bigger stuff. Maybe it’s tooling but my main suspicion is that the premise is flawed. </div></div><div dir="auto">Text is superior to tiles. Programming is really hard. Writing text scales better than tiles because it is less rigid and easier to deal with than tiles. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto">Karl </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 05:32, Nicola Mingotti <<a href="mailto:nmingotti@gmail.com">nmingotti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><br></div><div>Hi Karl,</div><div><br></div><div>The feature is very promising. </div><div><br></div><div>It would be more than useful, I think it would strike the imagination of new potential user if I/whoever would show it in a video. </div><div><br></div><div>Consider this, in all other languages to keep an eye on a silly variable the fastest way is to print in stdout. This is something that Typing Joe did thousands of times. </div><div>It is extremely ugly and messy. I keep printing in Transcript myself and I dislike it. I do only because it is fast to implement. </div><div><br></div><div>If you are working on it let me know when you have reached a landmark. I may illustrate the feature in a new video. </div><div><br></div><div>bye</div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div>Nicola</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 18, 2019, at 12:55 PM, karl ramberg <<a href="mailto:karlramberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">karlramberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div>I understand what you talk about now :-)</div><div>This functionality is experimental. I think it was part of a plan to make tile scripting more general but it never not finished.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Karl</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 7:37 AM Nicola Mingotti <<a href="mailto:nmingotti@gmail.com" target="_blank">nmingotti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>hi,</div><div><br></div><div>here is a video explaining the question</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2wn9Yc7P2s&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2wn9Yc7P2s&feature=youtu.be</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>bye</div><div>Nicola</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 17, 2019, at 9:49 AM, karl ramberg <<a href="mailto:karlramberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">karlramberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div>I dom't really understand what you ask here.</div><div>Could you send a screen shot or something ?</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Karl</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:38 AM Nicola Mingotti <<a href="mailto:nmingotti@gmail.com" target="_blank">nmingotti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div><div>Hi Marcel,</div><div><br></div><div>I understand more or less how to use the Viewer on Players. </div><div><br></div><div>Indeed, I was surprised when I saw that there is a Viewer for a Morph ! </div><div><br></div><div>And I don't understand at all how this does fit into the big picture nor how to use it.</div><div><br></div><div>It would be very nice if I could drag out a line from the Viewer and keep a variable of the Morph under my eyes in the World, in a tile. </div><div><br></div><div>bye</div><div>Nicola</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:40 AM, Marcel Taeumel <<a href="mailto:marcel.taeumel@hpi.de" target="_blank">marcel.taeumel@hpi.de</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div><div id="m_-669177778044328272gmail-m_3540717121245564232gmail-m_-5694821234012937784__MailbirdStyleContent" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">
> <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> Is it normal that I don't see the variable value in the Viewer window ? </span><div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I think you need to click on "viewer for player". Players can have scripts, which are constructed from those tiles.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Best,</span></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Marcel</span></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left-style:solid;border-width:1px;margin-top:20px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px"><p style="color:rgb(170,170,170);margin-top:10px">Am 16.10.2019 00:14:23 schrieb Nicola Mingotti <<a href="mailto:nmingotti@gmail.com" target="_blank">nmingotti@gmail.com</a>>:</p><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div dir="auto"><div><br></div><div>Hi, </div><div><br></div><div>Please follow these steps:<br><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">1] Drag a RectangleMorph into the World</span><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">2] Center click over it</span><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">3] Select the wrench Halo icon (gray one)</span><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">4] Select "Viewer for Morph"</span><br><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I see a lot of properties which I usually control via the Workspace.</span><br><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Let's focus on "Rectangl Center".</span><br><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">My questions are:</span><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">-] Is it normal that I don't see the variable value in the Viewer window ? </span><br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">-] It would be extremely useful if I could just drag out the ViewrMorphLine for "RectangleMorphCenter" into the World . So I could always check (in this case) the center of a Morph. </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">-] More in general, I don't understand how I can use all of these tiles, can anybody give me some hints ? </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">bye</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Nicola Mingotti</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div></div></div></blockquote>
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