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Hi Christoph,<div><br></div><div>> <span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 16px">So why does </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 16px">MCMethodDefinition >> #unload distinguish between regular extension methods and override extension methods, instead of recovering every method's history? </span></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 16px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 16px">Because it could easily fail to do the expected thing. If you clean up code and decide to move something into or between extension categories, you don't want to restore that on unload. That's even tricky with -override stuff if an intermediate state did not get versioned through MC.</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 16px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 16px">Best,</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 16px">Marcel</span></div><div class="mb_sig"></div>
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<p style="color: #AAAAAA; margin-top: 10px;">Am 17.12.2019 13:00:28 schrieb Thiede, Christoph <christoph.thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>:</p><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
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<p>Hi Marcel, thanks for the pointers! Just fixed that in XmasDecorations :-)</p>
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<p>Follow-up question, consider the following (for me, quite likely) scenario: I develop a new convenience method for a system class, for example Collection >> #detect:ifAbsent:. Before committing it to Trunk, I only use it in a separate package as an extension
method. Later, it is released via Trunk updates. When I now install my package in an up-to-date image, the category name will not end with '*-override', so unloading the package will delete the method.</p>
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<p>So why does <span>MCMethodDefinition >> #unload distinguish between regular extension methods and override extension methods, instead of recovering every method's history? :-)</span></p>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 17. Dezember 2019 11:38:30<br>
<b>An:</b> John Pfersich via Squeak-dev<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [squeak-dev] Possible buggy senders of Class >> #category?</span>
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<div>extensions to classes that are actually overrides -- so that selector was already taken before in that class -- are managed via Monticello through that "-override" suffix.</div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px">My Widgets project does this in Morph:</span></div>
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<div>When unloading Widgets through Monticello, the orignal methods should be restored.</div>
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<p style="color: #AAAAAA; margin-top: 10px;">Am 16.12.2019 23:44:39 schrieb Thiede, Christoph <christoph.thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>:</p>
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<p>I also heard this the first time now. Many thanks for the tip!</p>
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<p>Does this exactly depend on the "override" suffix? So if I overrode dozens of methods, I could not distribute them into special categories?</p>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 16. Dezember 2019 23:30:11<br>
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<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [squeak-dev] Possible buggy senders of Class >> #category?</span>
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> That's exactly what's supposed to happen, if you properly named your category "*xyz-override". By marking a method as override, it belongs to both the original package and the overriding package.<br>
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Wait, what? I'm fairly sureI've never seen that mentioned before. Do we have that explained anywhere in plausibly obvious swiki page(s)?<br>
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