<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127Signature"><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif,EmojiFont,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",NotoColorEmoji,"Segoe UI Symbol","Android Emoji",EmojiSymbols"><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper"><div><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127Item.MessagePartBody">Hi Chris, good idea! I sent two commits regarding your proposal to the inbox.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It wasn't really meant as a proposal as much as an "example" of how we do it with our object oriented UI. Since that is already available on the Class menu (also as Cmd+a on that pane, which is how I usually access it), we will have to decide whether we want to lengthen the already-long text menu, as you alluded to below..</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127Signature"><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif,EmojiFont,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",NotoColorEmoji,"Segoe UI Symbol","Android Emoji",EmojiSymbols"><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper"><div><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127Item.MessagePartBody">
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<div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127Item.MessagePartBody">However, I do not think that Ralphs original request got redundant per this proposal. <span style="font-size:12pt">The text morph menu is very horrible long, even if you can type to search, and there few more hotkeys free to use. </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>I think it's indicative of the complexity of software development and the power of the IDE to address it -- it needs a lot of functions and multiple ways of doing the same thing, resulting in a lot of buttons and menu items. Button row is subject to the same design balance between "too long", or fewer functions, too.<br></div><div></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127Signature"><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif,EmojiFont,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",NotoColorEmoji,"Segoe UI Symbol","Android Emoji",EmojiSymbols"><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper"><div><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127Item.MessagePartBody"><span style="font-size:12pt">In my opinion, the
button row is exactly appropriate in order to provide a reduced set of operations to the overwhelmed user (such as me). I keep desiring a split button as mentioned below, maybe this dream can become reality someday ... :-)</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Maybe the button row could morph itself automatically into one of those based on size and number of truncated labels.. :) Another idea, ability to select which functions one wants at each place... :-o :)</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div> Chris</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr"><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127Signature"><div id="m_956198688769182580m_8797104240767598316gmail-m_-2437712076130629127divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif,EmojiFont,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",NotoColorEmoji,"Segoe UI Symbol","Android Emoji",EmojiSymbols"><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper"><div>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 20. Januar 2020 23:55:58<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 12:51 PM Thiede, Christoph <<a href="mailto:Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de" target="_blank">Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi, this sounds great! It took me also a few months to find out that this feature "browse assignments" exists :)</p>
<p>On the other hand, I think this makes the button row look even more overfilled.</p>
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<div>We have an unpleasant mix of a "command-oriented" UI, where you select a command (instead of an object) and THEN the system prompts you, modally, for the object to apply that command to -- we should be moving AWAY from this, not toward --<br>
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<div>For example, you can select the instVar name (text) and use "References to it (N)" off the menu (or hot-key) to show all references to an instVar that way. It would be easy to add an additional menu entry for assignments only.</div>
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<p>Another option might be to offer a pop-up menu similar to the code provenance button. This menu would have two items: 'references' and 'assignments'. Good for clarity, not so good for efficiency -- on the other hand, which person that wants to be efficient
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<p>A popular GUI element for such problems is the <a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/windowsribbon/windowsribbon-controls-splitbutton" target="_blank">
split button</a>. Emphasises the default option of a series, but still provides fast access to the rest of series, too. But we don't have a pluggable implementation for this in Morphic so far, do we?</p>
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<div dir="auto">One can invoke this also with Cmd-a on the class, or somewhere in its pop-up menu.</div>
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<div dir="auto">A button for it could be nice on touch screens though. There is no button space for all our favorite features though. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Ralph, could you send a screenshot of your solution for a quick impression, please?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Ralph Boland <<a href="mailto:rpboland@gmail.com" target="_blank">rpboland@gmail.com</a>> schrieb am Mo., 20. Jan. 2020, 18:35:<br>
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In the Browsers there is a line of buttons: "browse", "senders" etc.<br>
One of the buttons is "vars" which when pressed brings up a GUI that<br>
allows you to select a variable and then a list of all methods using<br>
that variable<br>
is brought up from which you can select a method to inspect.<br>
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Sometimes I only want to view the subset of the methods in which the<br>
variable is assigned.<br>
I have implemented this feature (new button to the right of "vars"<br>
labeled ":=")<br>
and find it to be very useful.<br>
I am wondering if this feature can be added to the next version of Squeak.<br>
I can send my code changes if someone is willing to do this but the changes<br>
required are small so my help may not be needed.<br>
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If some do not like this feature (it's great really!) then perhaps it<br>
could be turned<br>
on or off depending on a Preferences setting.<br>
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If this feature happens to be in 5.3 then my apologies for wasting<br>
peoples time.<br>
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