<div dir="ltr"><div>Hm, <br></div><div>I looked a little into this. I can't find this in older images. Maybe I miss remember how it used to work...</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Karl<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:31 PM karl ramberg <<a href="mailto:karlramberg@gmail.com">karlramberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Class variables used to be visible in the inspector as you show in the screenshot.</div><div>They are capitalized so you see they are special. <br></div><div>I can't remember exactly when it got removed, it was a few years ago.</div><div>I also can't remember the reason they got removed. <br></div><div>But I miss having them easy accessible, because hidden state is really hard to debug. <br></div><div>And hiding the class variables just make it even harder.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Karl<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:18 PM Thiede, Christoph <<a href="mailto:Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de" target="_blank">Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2020 17:07:38<br>
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<div>Please consider bringing back functionality for Inspectors and Explorers to show class side variables then :-)</div>
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<p>(I hope we can review them soon, and I wish to commit them into the inbox ASAP), and I already implemented the same idea. Coming soon :-)</p>
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<div>Not long ago I posted about the variable assignments button.<br>
It generated an interesting discussion but I don't think in the end it will<br>
result in any change to the operation of Squeak.<br>
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Let me make a slight variation on this discussion.<br>
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In the Inspector/Debugger the instance variables of the class being<br>
inspected are displayed in a window and any one of these variables can<br>
be selected/inspected.<br>
Then using a menu or hotkey one can invoke:<br>
StringHolder>>browseVariableReferences<br>
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StringHolder>>browseVariableAssignments<br>
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These commands bring up a selection window where one chooses one of the instance<br>
variables of the class of the selected variable. Then one of the<br>
methods above is invoked<br>
on the instance variable you chose.<br>
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This was counterintuitive to me so I added two new menu-items/hotkeys:<br>
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('selected variable references... (u)'<br>
browseSelectedVariableReferences)<br>
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('selected variable assignments... (A)'<br>
browseSelectedVariableAssignments)<br>
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These commands act like the cooresponding previous commands except that,<br>
instead of bringing up a selection window for the user to select the<br>
variable to use,<br>
the selected variable of the class being inspected is used (and the class being<br>
inspected is used instead of the class of the selected variable).<br>
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This feature is more intuitive to me and I have found it quite useful.<br>
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I have attached the necessary code as .st files in case anybody would like to<br>
try it out. These are filed out from Linux but I assume they load as<br>
is to Windows or Mac.<br>
Feel free to make any changes you feel necessary and if it gets added to the<br>
next version of Squeak, great!<br>
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If you try it out let me know what you think.<br>
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Thanks for reading<br>
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Ralph Boland <a href="mailto:rpboland@gmail.com" target="_blank">rpboland@gmail.com</a><br>
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